Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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PhilipP are you a scientist?Once again what are your qualifications to pontificate on the subject
as you do and call 98% of scientists `weirdy beardy philosophers who do ?
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Propaganda increases the 2.9 % to 19 %...........
Global warming: What the leading scientists say
The UN panel looking at the impact of human activity on the planet is about to release its latest report.
Representing the peer-reviewed work of hundreds of leading climate scientists, it offers no cause for
scepticism or complacency
A lot has changed since the world's leading climate scientists last gathered in the name of the U
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in 2007, to put the finishing touches to their
fourth landmark assessment of the state of global warming.
Since the release of that report in Geneva, the world has been through a prolonged and continuing
economic downturn. This was arguably good for the environment in the short term, because th
resulting slump in manufacturing had the effect of curbing the growth in damaging carbon emissions.
But in the longer term, the recession has been profoundly damaging, because it has knocked green
issues firmly off the political agenda. While renewable technologies such as wind and solar powe
can benefit from free sources of energy, the initial investment is huge and the rewards will not be
felt until much further down the line.
The cause of reducing emissions was dealt a further significant blow at the annual UN climate change
conference in Copenhagen in December 2009, when the world's governments failed to agree on
legally-binding targets to reduce their CO2 emissions.
This failure to forge a treaty to replace the 1997 Kyoto protocol, which was rejected by the US and
which placed no obligations on big developing countries such as China, was hugely disappointing to
many and took much of the wind out of the sails of the campaign to reduce emissions.
Climate sceptics have effectively exploited the opportunities provided by the recession and the disappointing
Copenhagen summit to push their case, arguing that the last thing people need is expensive and unnecessary
renewable energy pushing up their utility bills.
According to a recent survey from the UK Energy Research Centre, they have been effective. The
proportion of people living in Britain who do not believe in climate change has more than quadrupled
since 2005 - from 4 per cent to 19 per cent.
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IPCC report: Scientists are 95% certain humans causing climate change
Most comprehensive report on climate change ever leaves little doubt that greenhouse gases are
causing the world to heat up
Scientists are more certain than they have ever been that humans are causing global warming
, according to the most comprehensive report ever conducted into climate change, which predicts
with 95 per cent certainty that people's greenhouse gas emissions are heating the world.
This is the main finding of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) fifth
assessment report, known as AR5, which was published in Stockholm this morning.
The degree of certainty leaves little doubt that greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide and
methane are responsible for climate change and compares to a finding of 90 per cent certainty
in the previous - fourth - assessment six years ago. This, in turn, was a significant increase on
the 66 per cent certainty reached in 2001's third assessment and just over 50 per cent in 1995.
AR5 has 840 main authors recruited from 38 of the IPCC's 195 member countries, with British
and American scientists making the biggest contribution.
At more than 3,000 pages, the report is so big that it will be released in three parts over the next
14 months. The first part, released today, covers the physical science of climate change. The second
instalment will concentrate on the impacts of climate change and how to adapt to them, while the
third will examine ways to curb the warming.
As with the other IPCC reports, AR5 is a synthesis of the findings of thousands of peer-reviewed
research papers from the past few years. It comes at a crucial time in global climate change politics
since it will be the last IPPC report published before the Paris summit in 2015, when the world's
governments have pledged to reach a hugely ambitious and legally binding targets to reduce their
emissions in a bid to limit global warming to 2C compared to pre-industrial levels.
US Secretary of State John Kerry backed the report's findings, and pledged action on cutting emissions.
Full story Independent.
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Over 95% of clergy in the Church of England believe in the existence of God.
Therefore there is a God.
Have you ever wondered why a list of the scientists involved in the IPCC reports are kept confidential? Have you ever asked yourself why many of those contributing to it's six yearly reports are not scientists but activists for WWF and greenpeace and other weirdy beardy fringe groups?
Did you know that the head of the IPCC is not a climate scientist but wait for it............
a railway engineer.
Next!
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Just saying - when global temperatures rise and ice caps retreat climate scientists (many of whose research is funded by groups and organisations with their own agenda) all agree that it is all person made and that unless we do something immediately (like double what we pay for energy), the earth will self destruct in 15 years (hyperbole deliberate). Yet when global temperatures stall and remain unchanged for 15 years and the ice caps increase, it is all part of the natural cycle and nothing to do with personkind whatsoever. No wonder the man in the street is having a few problems believing these days - Just saying.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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is it a matter that should really concern us though?
china and india are hardly likely to cut back on industrial production and smaller developing nations will outpace us all over emissions in the next few decades.
we can all do our little bit and feel holier than though - philip can stop putting a lone sock in the tumble dryer for example - but our green policies will have no effect on the icebergs and polar bear cubs whatsoever.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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God they're getting desperate now. To compound the anti-scientific nonsense by the IPCC, pushed relentlessly by the BBC, newsnight have none other than Chris Huhne to bolster the green cause. What next - Stalin to explain why command economies beat capitalism?
Got to wonder how he's getting home tonight eh?
Keith Sansum1
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I make the consistent comment;
If the scientists who are giving the warnings are right, its wrong to take no notice for the future generations.
if they are wrong not to much is lost
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Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Lets bring this debate to neighbourhood level. Anyone who has sat in queing traffic has only to glance at the carbon deposits eating into the brickwork along major routes to see it does damage the envioronment. Landfill sites, ships cruising our seas looking for somewhere to dump their potent loads. Paul B has posted many photos of the smoking funnels at the docks. Councils spend a fortune on removing pollutants from our seas, rivers and waterways. Farmers, Industry and Science all dispose toxic waste into the environment, to name but a few.
No damage at all then.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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well Philip?????????????????// lol
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 190....Pure logic and commonsense.We do not have to be scientists to comprehend their findings.
Now take our local scene,global ?
The 2.9 % have their heads in the sand but for what reasons?.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Keith, a well is a hole in the ground with oil or water in it.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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There you go Lesley
looks like you have stumped philip
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Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Always did have a reputation of going straight for the bails Keith.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Independent.
Gorge on climate change denial, just make sure you know it's poison
As the IPCC readies their report on global warming, the deniers are out in force
I had what some practised dieters call a 'cheat day' the other evening. I binged, I gorged, I guzzled. After years of trying to restrain myself and not read stories that deny or poke fun at climate change, I browsed a ton of them. It was pretty decadent. I learnt that the ice-caps aren't melting. I learnt that the climate isn't actually heating at all. I learnt that a cadre of scientists (sorry, 'boffins') were falsifying consensus and pushing governments to invest in ludicrous green schemes that only hurt people like me in the long run. Then I looked outside. A cool, dusky breeze brushed across the pavement. For a moment, everything felt so right. I could join them. Be the junior J. Clarkson.
Given time the high wore off. And as of this morning, with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change about to convene (Lord, how boring just to type that), I'm feeling a little more like my old self. Back to the grind. Back to expressing support for the scientists working on a problem that neither seems all that present (it's a lovely Autumnal Monday) nor all that simple. I looked at the leaked briefings for the IPCC report, which comes out on Friday. It will say that the chances of man being the main cause of global warming since the 1950s have upped from 90 per cent to 95 per cent. So nothing new.
Full comment in Independent...........``the final last words``
............and there's far, far, far less ice than there was twenty years ago, or should be, or will be if
we continue to let nonsensical objections and pseudoscience drown out the boring, dangerous truth.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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having spent a year under your leadership I know Lesley lol
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