Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
28 October 2010
16:5977077alex,whens a village not a village,when it becomes a subburb.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
28 October 2010
17:0377078alex,a pettion is no use its one letter signed by many.but a thousand signed letters is better.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
28 October 2010
17:0377079I know, Brian. Are you for or against this urban development scheme of DDC?
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
28 October 2010
17:0477080alex,i am niether for or against urban development.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
28 October 2010
17:1577081bit of a chicken and egg situation here, where are the jobs for the people who buy the houses?
the same could be said if a big company decides to locate here and then find there is nowhere for their workforce to live.
i don't see whitfield as a village in the same way that say temple ewell is, more a suburb of dover.
similarly with river, there is no gap between where crabble ends and river starts.
28 October 2010
17:4777094Vic \Matcham & Alexander D,
I really do not see what your problem is. You are both flapping about like a fish on a fishmongers slab. I ask you both once again just what exactly are your objections?? You both are going on like a dog with a bone. You are both chewing it but not sure why?? As for Charlie Elphick opposing the Whitfield development another opponent who just feels to coy to tell us what his objections are based on.
Vic with regards your opinion of Hawkinge development what on earth is wrong with it?? perhaps you would be good enough to state what a new development should look like because you sure have me baffled. I note the absence of crowds of residents from Hawkinge and the surrounding area marching through Folkestone banging there drums in protest at there development.
If you both feel so strongly about what happens in other peoples back yard may I suggest you concentrate your howls of protest in trying to get some decent development in Dover. I am sure we are all in agreement it badly needs a concentrated howl of protest.
28 October 2010
17:4877095Paul is quite right to talk about the bogeyman of mass immigration being used to get people stirred up.
Every time I visit London I'm at a loss to understand how we are not all celebrating the multi-cultural and vibrant society which we have built with a combination of British fair-mindedness and unrestricted immigration over the past few decades.
I took a photograph of one of the bustling street markets (see below).
I'm certainly looking forward to seeing an influx to Whitfield - perhaps we'll then see our own market square as busy.
28 October 2010
17:4877096Ooops!! dont know how the double post happened,SORRY!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
28 October 2010
17:5877099good to see you celebrating our diversity bob, i hope you remembered to take your prayer mat along.
people could be offended otherwise, nothing worse than that.
29 October 2010
10:5577214Andrew Stucken,
I resent your classification of residents of Whitfield as under privilaged.
29 October 2010
11:0977216Jimmy, I well remember moving into the Dover district in the early eighties.
I went to the Estate Agents and asked them to show me the best districts to buy a house.
I looked at the 'village' of River and also Whitfield (which looked like a Council Estate taken over by owner occupiers).
I live in Deal.
Enough said?

Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
29 October 2010
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29 October 2010
12:1277226Bob Frost,
And your point is?????????
29 October 2010
12:5977229Perfectly well made, I would say.......
29 October 2010
13:2277232Bern&bob the implication of your remark is that the people of Whitfield are some how of an unacceptible quality not fitting of the qualities that people of Dover aspire to. You are both talking, or rather implying rubbish!!
P.S.
I also moved to Whitfield in the eighties,certainly did not strike me as being a ghetto of owner occupiers. SNOBS!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
29 October 2010
13:2577233i don't think anyone has said that jimmy, bob has simply said that he found the housing more attractive in deal.
no criticism of the burghers of whitfield.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
- Posts: 4,150
29 October 2010
14:3977242I moved to Whitfield in the early 80s, and it`s always been pleasant up here. Some of the older resident`s still refer to it as a village, and why not for heaven`s sake? They grew up in it, and just like the British imperial measurements, it`ll live on for a long time yet. HOWARD, leave Macdonalds out of this!
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
29 October 2010
14:4877245Jimmy, I was trying to stay that Whitfield is the Elysian Fields of Dover (which sums up Dover).
There are places where people exist and others where they live.
As I intimated, Whitfield = good for Dover.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
29 October 2010
15:4777254Jimmy, I am trying to figure out if the democratic wish of Whitfield's community is to have that urban development scheme, or if it is just DDC's and Jimmy Long's personal aspiration.
Which I think it is!
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
29 October 2010
15:4877255Like all towns Dover is a bit of a curates egg.
Yes there are good parts (much of Castle Ward or Elms Vale for instance) plus the outlying areas such as Whitfield, River, Guston etc. there are also less good parts such as bits of Folkestone Road, parts of the Buckland estate etc. However if we collectively as a town ignore the bad parts and only concentrate our efforts on the good we will see littl or no overall improvement in the town. Whilst I think the proposals for Whitfield are positive, we need to see a clear plan from the council on how they propose to deal with not only brown field development in town but also the planning issues and social issue in the areas I have mentioned. These plans not only need to encompass development, but also education, health and employment.
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