Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
Having calmed down a little I will pose another question. Who actually runs this town? The elected representatives or the paid officers who are supposed to do (within reason) what they are told, that being the wish of the electorate? The pejorative nature of the question will tell you what I think
Ok, I will issue a challenge. I know from previous emails that this column is read by"those on high". Are you willing to come to a public meeting?
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
- Posts: 1,418
The thing is that this problem has only come to a head since the bins were delivered. Only a complete nutter would have not seen the result of this situation. I pointed this out somewhere on a previous thread but there didn't seem to be the interest.
As Barry pointed out in an earlier post he discussed bin hell with officials ages ago and decided it didn't quite cut it to say the least.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
- Posts: 3,205
I will Terry as I feel that they have been brought in without the knowledge to bring them in,and people aren't listened too.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,894
Terry, how about citing racial discrimination in future if they will not collect your black sacks.
Bern, they are still collecting the black sacks because we are yet to receive the new bins.
A couple of my neighbours have their own wheelie bins and we have two black dustbins I wonder what will happen when the new bins eventually arrive.
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Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
I've said in previous postings that I have no problem with the bins per se. The problem is that DDC seem to have the "one size fits all" mentality where these monstrosities have to fit in even the smallest of properties.
I was talking to Vic (the man of the people) Matcham on Tuesday and he suggested the obvious solution to multiple occupancies. Why not share? Instead of a large house with 5 flats and 10 large bins in the front garden, why not a fewer number that they can share?
DDC have no flexibilty in this.
Incidentaly, my talks with DDC have been with this lady, the one who categorically stated that black bags will not be collected:-
Linda Pring
Customer Advisor
EK Services
Tel: 01304 821199
Email:
lindapring@dover.gov.uk
EK Services - working in partnership with Canterbury City Council, Dover District Council and Thanet District Council.
What's all this about then? Our collections are being done in conjunction with Shepway District Council.
Terry
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
a joint services initiatives terry, everything pooled in order to make savings other than chief executives.
there are still 2 of them.
Guest 730- Registered: 5 Nov 2011
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I was watching the bin men this morning. Most people had put their rubbish in black bags before puting them in their bins, so instead of wheeling the bins to the lorry the bin men were taking the bags out of the bins and chucking them in as they always have. Obviously a lot quicker for them and would have been quicker still if they didn;t have to take them out of the bins first.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i was passing through london road earlier, didn't take any shots as my camera packed up on me(stop cheering) but the bins were a complete eyesore and totally out of keeping with the properties.
on the side of the road where the shops are there was a mixture of small bins, bags and loose rubbish for pedestrians to dodge round.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I have sent the last 3 days' postings and photos to the Head of Waste Services and the Portfolio Holder, asking that these issues are taken seriously and resolved.
Roger
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
... and I have asked if they are both willing to attend a public meeting to sort this out.
Terry
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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thanks for taking the time and making the effort roger, i suspect that those postings have all been read by the people concerned.
Thank you Roger
Sue you wanted to know about back gardens was the informationI posted of use ?
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
Yes it was however I note that some terraced houses leave their bins in their front gardens but seem to manage to pull their prams through their house as I did.when my children were small .
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Sue you are suggesting that these people wheel two extremely large bins plus the other three through their front door, the hall, the living room, the dining room, the kitchen and there into the garden? Or is it better that they leave them in their front room? Even worse when the rain is pouring and wheel tracks mark their carpet/wood floor/lino delete as applicable?
Somehow I think this as gesture environmentalism a little too far.
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
When did you last see a pram Sue, Silver Cross or otherwise?
Terry
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes I was talking to Terry about this also where there are just few in each house why not just have two bins beween the houses one can have the rubbish one and your next door can have the other one this way you would only have one each to look after.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Thirty years ago Terry .I used to wheele it through the house .The first one was a Restmour and the last a Royal .It took some pushing up the hills in River.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,894
Forty years ago we also wheeled the pram through part of the house but we did not keep it in the back garden so the wheels were not all dirty.
At present I keep the tins, glass and plastic recyling dustbin in the back garden which is carried to the front. I can not carry a wheelie bin and have no intention of ruining my expensive floor coverings wheeling it from back to front.
Vic has a sensible idea if you get on VERY well with your immediate neighbour otherwise I can see problems ahead.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
Where I lived in Slough when my children were in prams,I lived in a cul de sac where we had flowering cherry trees .To get to the shops the path went through a wooded area .Before the pram could enter the house the wheeles had to be brushed clear of mud and leaves
My black bin prior to the wheelie bins stood in the back garden .It was harder to move as it did not have wheeles
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
to take this to its logical conclusion 70 years ago people had black out curtains, spam, powdered egg and air raids
however we are now in 2011 and expect better.