Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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10 December 2010
19:0783962My impression has been that the police have been very careful not to respond to acts of destruction of property such as breaking of windows since the students' protests started several weeks ago, considering the large numbers of young people involved in the protests, and do not deliberately try to hurt any demonstraters. I strongly disagree with any ideas that the Police are responsible for any wrong-doing here, in the most absolute of terms!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 December 2010
21:1183984alex
i suspect that many heads of the top brass will roll on this one.
surveillance cameras are at all demonstrations and the footage is studied to identify the regulars that join in any going, there are also police assigned to gathering intelligence about the "rent a mob" brigade.
in this present issue, the first one was a month ago and there have been a few since.
one look at the pictures in the press and on t.v. will confirm that the police have been nowhere near successful in protecting people and property.
we have police officers and member of the public in hospital, enough said.
Keith Sansum1
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10 December 2010
21:5883994howard
thats a tad unfair on the police
the rent a mob broke away and turned up all over london in must smaller groups very difficult to police.
you complain when they use kettling tactics to contain the large numbers,
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10 December 2010
22:0283997You people out there would be well advised to take blue Barrys loyal support for the police with a pinch of salt, no let me re-phrase that a bucket full of salt.
Barry knows full well that his government are using the police as a battering ram to destroy any opposition to David Cameron and his motley crew.
For once I feel a sense of relief as Thatcher destroyed the British manual worker, and now it is the turn of the intelligensa. and when the police have destroyed all opposition then the tories will bring in legislation to get rid of any opposition within the police, and then look out. We aint seen nothing yet.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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10 December 2010
22:1784000So Jimmy you think that the police should sit back and allow thugs to riot, loot shops, attack innocent people and descecrate a war memorial. It seems as well you would have wanted the police as well to allow Scargills bully boys to beat up and intimidate decent working miners.
Well that just makes you as bad as the worse of them.
These thugs must never be allowed to get their way. The mob must never be allowed to rule.
All the rioters should be arrested and face the full force of the law and all of those going to Uni should be kicked out.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 December 2010
22:2984003rather a weak reply from you barry, surely all criminals should be brought to book?
that includes the cowards in kevlar vests, helmets and carrying riot shields.
we do not live in a police state yet.
Jan Higgins
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10 December 2010
22:3884004Did I do something wrong or am I going nuts, two of my posts have disappeared.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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10 December 2010
22:4684005Howard - there is no moral equivilence.
The rioters were the ones in the wrong, not the police. If they did not go and make trouble, then nothing would have happened to them.
If the police knocked a few heads together, and its a big if, then good for them. Personally I do not accept the propaganda of the rioting thugs.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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10 December 2010
22:4784006What a fatuous post, Jimmy. You must be one of those communists like Scargill and Jack Jones.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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10 December 2010
22:4984007I have just read a report by journalist James Forsyth.
He said that rioters were charging and attacking the police lines like a medievil assault. Well if the rioters got hurt, good, they deserved it and well done to the police.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 December 2010
22:5284008your simplistic post does you no credit barry.
it is not just police and rioters, it is also about innocent people that have been admitted to intensive care wards.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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10 December 2010
23:0484009up to your you last post i shared some of your views,
i dont share your views at all on your mis informed views on the miners dispute
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Brian Dixon
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10 December 2010
23:0884012so barry you condone a police state do you,howard has just about right.the antaganist met police and tatics put inocent people in hospital and thats ok by you.yours is a weak argument.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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10 December 2010
23:1384013Ok, I must be going nuts but I did post because I double clicked and two came up the same so I edited the second one to something different. Very strange.
Why did the other students do nothing as far as I can see from the TV pictures, they just let the yobs get on with attacking the police and buildings etc. In my mind the other students are almost as guilty as the yobs themselves, they follow the yobs like sheep or should I say lemmings.
To many of these so called students are just out to make trouble and the genuine students are rapidly loosing any sympathy I might have had for them.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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10 December 2010
23:2284016barryw,as where the police on horses,a bit remasist of the charge of the light brigade.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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10 December 2010
23:2284017Innocent people do not charge police lines.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 December 2010
23:2584018this is all becoming rather surreal, what about the people that did not charge or attack anything or anyone and are in a state of shock or severe injury?
10 December 2010
23:3084020Barry,
You talk about the full force of the law. Would this be the same law that Kenneth Clark is so grossly engaged in turning into a criminals charter??
10 December 2010
23:3284022Peter Garstin,
PLEASE ENGAGE BRAIN BEFORE PLACING FOOT IN MOUTH!!
P.S.
No communist, no Scargill supporter just a plain John Doe who can recognise the beginning of a police state.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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10 December 2010
23:3684025What about the yobs who were attacking the police and their horses with what looked like wooded poles. As Peter says "innocent people do not charge police lines", they walk, they shout, they carry banners they do NOT cause the mayhem/havoc that results in the response that the police had to resort to yesterday.
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