Brian Dixon
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it looks like a fiscal one howard,somthing like what cameron/osbourne where spouting about a year ago.i can remember barryw spouting about it to.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i thought barry would have answered this one brian.
if nobody knows what the treaty was about then dave must have been right not to sign it.
the fact that sarkozy and merkel have been thoroughly nasty to our prime minister over the matter suggests that they are disappointed at being unable to pull a fast one
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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mr cameron shot himself in the foot again howard,probably bring the uk down with him.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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There was no treaty to sign!
Reg, polls have indicated that two thirds of people in Britain say Cameron did the right thing using the veto.
Of the remaining one third, many don't know, and a small minority said he did wrong.
Brian, if Dave had signed the so-called "treaty???", uproar would have broken out in Britain, the Government would have probably collapsed by now and Dave would be out of the Tory Party.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,no a state of calm and tranquilaty would have turnd up,and will still be sitting on the top table with a voice.but alass we are not,but now feeding out of the trugh with the rest of the runts.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That so called Treaty will not even pass in most of the '26' anyway. Today it is looking dead in the water.
The only questions to ask is whether the next crisis summit can be held off until January or will they have to have one in December.
Look at what is happening in the markets as well as the European political scene - the whole deal had no credibility anyway. The Euro is doomed in its present form and membership.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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so you say barry,but the trade is strenthanig in europe while uk's is laging behind because of the uk goverments lack of forsight.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I really do not see where you get your ideas about the EU from Brian - that is a long way from the truth, if it was so then we would not be in the present Eurozone crisis.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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didn't take long for them to remember how much they need us.
dave 1 angela and nick 0.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/14/angela-merkel-britain-important-euGuest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Flashman will have to go cap in hand.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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barryw,if you took your eurosceptic glasses of once in a while you see what i see.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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LOL - Brian..... Reg.....
We will see....
and I suspect it will not be long.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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your right barry,this cobbled together goverment will crumble soon.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that reminds me, saw keith in town yesterday he will be back online on the 18th.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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fascinating article, the pact between the 26 is floundering already.
rather a telling comment from the irish finance minister on the subject of referendums.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/eu-26-fight-to-stop-pact-unravelling-6277137.htmlPaul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Why Howard #94?
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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cobbled together comment from brian in post 93 paul.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Shame, thought we were allowed some peace at Xmas.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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just when you thought it was safe to log on to the forum!!
Keith Sansum1
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yep;
paulw im back
and believe me people have told me they tire of your cobbled together ideas
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