Referendum and the e.u.
- 9 December 2011 13:35141679Of-course it will, Barry. When you had said recently that we'd be in for another 10 years, the lights went out.
Welcome back to the real world!
Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
Rule Britannia!
Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 9 December 2011 14:08141682Interesting response from the leader of UKIP Nigel Farage, he was on the BBC earlier. You would think this would be a dream result for him but no he didnt like it at all...He said Cameron had left us..
"In the worst of all worlds!"
"Neither one thing nor the other"...said he.
It now transpires that Hungary, the only other nation in isolation along with the UK as of last night, see my post earlier (No 53 )...today are reconsidering their position and it looks like they are suffering a change of heart since their stance last night. It looks like they will now join the other 23 countries in Eurozone Plus, not confirmed as yet but looking that way.
Sweden and Czech Rep still on the fence but likely to come down in favour of joining the other 23/24.
So...Britain in isolation.email: dover7@msn.com - 9 December 2011 14:57141690If ever we needed a carefully programmed ``U`` turn ..................we need it now.
It would be a brave/courageous action on his part but he must know in his heart of hearts that he is in a very
precarious position now anyway. - 9 December 2011 16:15141698No PaulB - the problem is with the Euro - they are digging themselves further into a hole with that doomed currency. More sticking plasters not solutions. The vanity of the politicians will bring the EU to its knees.
- Brian Dixon
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9 December 2011 16:41141708the vanaty of dave c and the eurosceptics will bring the uk down as well as europe,so be warned. - 9 December 2011 16:46141711like 1940 again we stood alone then.
the rest are like lemmings they are signing up for something that they know little about, just following the others.
the latest to join will be croatia who have a massive budget deficit, a corrupt government and a dire human rights record. - 9 December 2011 16:59141716I am waiting for one of the Lib Dem leading lights to break ranks and speak out against the decision, so far amazingly they are singing off the same hymn sheet as their Eurosceptic masters.Audere est facere.
- 9 December 2011 21:59141735There used to be the Austro-Hungarian Empire, also known as the Holy Roman Empire. It was neither holy nor Roman!
But it incorporated a Voelkerbund (union) of nations.
Now the Franco-German Axis has prevailed in Europe. The General Government of Poland - erm, what's his name, Jaruzelski, has united with the predominant powers, so there won't be another 3 September 1939.
Bohemia has joined too.
The Entente Cordiale has collapsed, but we have the Napoleonic bastions on the Heights, so all in order on the Estern Front
The Gothic Line in Italy is intact, so no worries there either
Russia has declared they WILL trade with Britain, and so Moscow is preparing for a Napoleonic Army, but Winter has come to the rescue (as it always does when Russia's about to receive a visitation)
The West Wall - what's that bloke's name, Guido Westerwelle, leader of the German Liberals, has said all is clear on their West Front.
Dave is carried through the streets of London amid roaring crowds, cheered by the throngs. His re-election is a forgone conclusion.
The City is spared a Blitz Tax which would have brought Albion in dire straits.
But some mumblings were heard in dark corners of the streets of London: "appeasement means betrayal of our European allies, Dave has given in"!
But what can one say? So Britain hastily brought to an end the Cod War and sought an alliance with Iceland.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
Rule Britannia!
Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 11 December 2011 09:51141891Latest one just in from Reg
again from the magic pen of Dave Brown of The Independent
no doubt Reg responding to the latest news seeping out that Nick Clegg is 'fuming'..
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.........``ISOLATION...........Cleggy `come back`...........to the rose garden``
*************************************************************email: dover7@msn.com - 11 December 2011 11:12141899what does the deputy pime minister do now?
he claims we will become "isolated and marginalised", a bit like his party really. - 11 December 2011 11:13141900"We will now by a pigmy on the world stage "
says Nick Clegg who was on the Andrew Marr show a few minutes ago. He was of course speaking of David Cameron's disaster in Europe, finding himself isolated from the rest of the 26 EU countries.
" We are turning our back on a market of 550 million people and 3 million peoples jobs here are dependent on this market" went on Clegg.
"They can now legislate about the City without us even being there... so Cameron's veto gained us nothing....and those so called Bulldog MP's in his own party are spectacularly misguided!"
So there you have it, the latest frantic thunderings from Coalition partner Nick Clegg.
The government is in tatters.email: dover7@msn.com - 11 December 2011 11:18141901usual clueless stuff from cleggy, does he think that other countries will stop selling things to us?
business will be totally unaffected. - 11 December 2011 11:56141911European leaders say ``It is the beginning of the end for Britain`s membership,his tactics have antagonised them.
``This will cost UK dearly``
26 out of the 27 will sign treaty,deserting Cameron and leaving him in isolation.
Conservative eurosceptics delighted......Lib/Dems worried and confused what to do!!!! Cameron made decision then told Cleggy.
Lib/Dems must decide if they relinquish power or take the slap in the face........Cleggy now has to placate an angry party.
Summit is clearly a major victory for Sarkosy who could scarcely hide his enjoyment at Cameron`s expense.
Belgium PM says ``It is not wise of Cameron to put himself outside of the club which is his/Britain`s main trading partner.
City tells Cameron that his veto vote may come back to haunt - Brian Dixon
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11 December 2011 12:26141913we will have to wait to see if cleggy is right,in my opiuion he is has the idea. - 11 December 2011 14:52141925Clegg can fume as much as he likes. If he forces an election any time soon the GlibDems will lose most of their seats and be looking for a new leader.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- 12 December 2011 09:13142024Another one from Reg, this time by Schrank of The Independent
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``Moment of Madness........................now when do we negotiate our new terms?????????????``
*************************************************************email: dover7@msn.com - 12 December 2011 16:31142079Another one from Reg
from Dave Brown of The Independent
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Beginning to understand Dave Brown`s message.My take is Thatcher,Fat Cat,trousers down (summit cock up ) Churchill ( alias Bulldog ) Fig leaf ( Cleggy leaving.............Political Vitals.......exposed )
What`s your take ?
************************************************************email: dover7@msn.com - 12 December 2011 18:26142109watched some the stuff from the "house of commons" earlier and thought that red ed surpassed himself for a change.
reduced dave to blaming everything on the last government.
the main thing that stood out for me was that both dave and ed seemed more concerned about the effects of the veto on their own parties than on the country. - 13 December 2011 12:37142182How can the National interest be defined by what suits one square mile? City Financial Services domination has been
vulnerable for sometime..................now it`s days are numbered.
The Foreign Office excluded from No.10 negotiating stategy meeting!!!!!!
Lib/Dems claim Cameron went into summit without``Intelligence``,``No friends`` and`` no flexibility``They also say
his negotiating stategy was ``unbelievably cackhanded``and it is only just dawning on Flashman and Ollie the
enormous ``error of judgement` which will result in a heavy price to pay.
Britain will be excluded from key meetings.Cameron ignored the Brussels rule ``If your not in the room,your on the menu``
Cameron`s unilateral decisions will also have huge implications to Scotland who are now looking at Scandanavian
countries.
Kim Darroch UK Representative to EU was not briefed in time to build the very necessary diplomatic alliances when you
have to negotiate with a`hostile opposition`...........to tell them you will not be voting their way.
All very amateur..................................at such a high level important summit. - 13 December 2011 12:52142184does anyone know what was actually in the treaty?
i have looked everywhere and all i can find is people saying that is important to sign up to or run a mile from.
how does it help solve the financial difficulties that all the countries are in?
