Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The hurting is because of previous fiscal mismanagement, building a deficit when it should have been closed.
Yes - it is going to hurt a lot more as well because of it. There is no easy way out and you need to realise that and then stop voting for spendthrift idiots who get us into a deficit mess in the first place.
Brian Dixon
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barry,your vocabury is growing,first it was twerps and idiots.what ever next.
Keith Sansum1
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brian;
barryw thinks anyone who doesnt think along the right wing conservative line are unworthy. or know little
little does he know
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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what catorgy does that come under.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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would answer last posting if i had any idea what it is about
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - I am merely responding to what I see on here. We see lots of complaining about cuts but nothing about the deficit.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Plenty has been said about the deficit but you choose to ignore them.
For some obscure reason you think your opinions are the only right ones and that they are facts, for everyone to follow.
They are merely points of view, not fact.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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long day kieth,have an early night.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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GaryC - You and others moan constantly about cuts but have never yet come up with alternative realistic, sensible and workable proposals to address the scale of the problem.
There is a valid debate to be held, about what should be cut, not whether cuts should be made.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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barryw
there has been a lot of debate on here about whats right or maybe wrong,
what maybe cut
how deep cuts should be
other parts of the debate that you fail to want to recognise as garyc says is the ideas that the cuts to public services(or wiping many of them out altogether)will do little to improve the situation and will instead just throw up to 4 million on the dole and thus have very low morale around the country, hardly good for the uk or outside countries looking in.
The idea that the private sector will pick up the millions of lost jobs hasnt happened as forecast, and whilst we wait all gets worse.
the idea of throwing generations onto the scrapheap does little to enthuse anyone
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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There have been many instances of alternative propositions on this forum and elsewhere Barry. Alas, many of them adversely impact upon you and are therefore dismissed out of hand.
You, dear Barry, are a Conservative, 'of the right'. This does not, in any sense, make you right. As standing atop a dung-heap would not make you tall.
I'll grant you one thing. You would rather be well-off (as in I'm all right!) than a Conservative, they too are there merely to see you all right.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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tom
barryw won't like that lol
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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20 billion smackers spent on green energy could be cut for starters.
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93, I'm with you there, Howard.
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91, Tom, yes many alternative suggestions but no clues as to where the money will come from to pay for it all.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I can agree with Howard on that too Peter.
Quite right. Lots of suggestions for what should not be cut, suggestions for more spending - but little of nothing by way of sensible alternatives on the scale needed.
We have, of course, seen the silly and inane. The deeply damaging, the totally inadequate. But not enough to even substitute for the cuts being made let alone the extra cuts we really need.
I have made suggestions and my main target will be the welfare bill and we can start with rises to benefits being establish at half the inflation rates and a phasing out completely of all tax credits over a 5 year period. That will help but more are still needed.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 95.....the money should come from ``all``of us........it should be ``fair``..pro-rata.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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the point that you make reg barryw doesnt want to recognise
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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97, Reg, even by your standards that is a woolly cop-out.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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peter;
i think i understand where reg is coming from
many of the public see the problems caused by banks, mp's poor govt, poor decision making,
and whilst all this goes on we continue to see failed chief exrecmore utives being paid off
millions of pounds.
whilst at the other end more and more people go inti poverty,
if we are all in it together this needs to change to give any hope for the future
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