Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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then there will be a surge of wrongfull dismissle cases appering.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Brian - that is why the law needs to be addressed to make it easier for employers.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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barryw,sometimes i think that you are heartless.but one does forgive you for trying to be fair.

Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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No Brian, it is because I have a heart and care. Ever heard of being tough to be kind.
The best form of job protection is a profitable employer and a healthy provision of jobs in a competitive market place. Protectionism, as in trade, is counter-productive in employment.
If you want more jobs you just have to de-risk employing people and encourage employment growth.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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barry thats a all new ball game.
i was told you have to be cruel to be kind.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Osborne continues to lose support and confidence of British Businesses.
Director General of British Chamber of Commerce accuses Osborne and his Ministers
of indecision,equivocation and political short-termism that is choking off economic
recovery.
He adds they keep making announcements that lack substance and of using `political
calculation`instead of policy making.
It is expected that the UK GDP figures will show contraction for the third successive
quarter...........
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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These comments reflect the ones I have been making for some time now though in stronger language.
GDP is indeed expected to show a fall and this is why he needs to get on with the supply side reforms that are being blocked by the LibDems currently. The weaknesses caused by the Eurozone crisis makes such changes all the more important in the face of falling GDP. At least Osborne has the right direction even if not deep and fast enough, Balls' deficit denying approach would truly mean a full scale economic meltdown.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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barry,osbournes reforms arnt working,he has been told many times by many differant people.but saying that all things said its falling on to deaf ears,and him all the while singing la,la,la and so on.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Brian - they are achieving one objective, to keep out interest rates down while our national debt piles up. What he is not doing is cut fast or deep enough to relieve the massive burden placed on business and it may even be too slow to keep interest rates down with the Eurozone damaging the growth part of the equation.
So he is going in the right direction but not fast enough specially given the Eurozone.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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barry,cut the cuts and stop borrowing stimulate growth [without borrowing and quntive easing,the banks are stashing it and not lending where it where it should go.]
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I really do not understand you Brian.
They cannot 'cut the cuts' stop them I assume and stop borrowing... we have a deficit and the money has to be raised and can only be borrowed. You cannot have both. Banks must only lend responsibly to those who want to borrow and cannot force lend. So are you suggesting they lend irresponsibly to those who cannot service the debt?
Brian- you are not making sense in your post.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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ok barry,i will put it this way.stop the cut backs,make sure the banks are giving out the cheap cash they been given by the boe.
barry,making very deep cuts as you would like is not making sence.is that clear enough for you.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Brian - what you are saying is practically absurd and economically suicidal.
Try spending more than you have in income year after year and see what happens.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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i know that barry,so why is the goverment borrowing now.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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As I have said many times Brian - because of the deficit, the amount being spent in excess of income is huge and it is a gap that has to be closed by public spending cuts. Without the cuts the deficit will carry on growing, the debt will compound up, soon it would be totally out of control and we will be even deeper in the brown stuff than we are now.
Here being the whole point. We have this dreadful deficit because the government carried on increasing spending while the economy was growing when they should have allowed the growth to balance the books. Therefore the cyclic economic slowdown started at a time when we already had a massive deficit. The fact is a lot of European countries did the same as us and this, along with the unworkable Euro, is why we are so deeply in the do do now.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I saw Osborne on the lunchtime news and he seems to be forever on TV lately making excuses, but these days with the hint of an apologetic air, something he wasnt known for previously. He blamed the last government, as all of them do, for todays -0.7 figure, but not quite in the same gung ho way as before, as blaming the previous government doesn't really wash anymore. No-one is buying it. These guys have been in power a long time now and we stagger from one set of bad figures to the next and dont they know it.
The great whipping boy of economic misery at the moment is always the state of the Euro. "Thank Gawd for the state of the Euro", says George in his prayers every night, otherwise there would be no legitimate excuse for the continued recession. But one often wonders if the Euro really is all that much of a problem. Sure, nobody is thriving but we are still trading are we not...?
The demand is still there..as mentioned today in the case of Land Rover Jaguar. The sales of posh cars is increasing. I did put up figures fairly recently which showed this, the humble basic family Ford is down but Mercedes-Benz sales are up. What does that tell you.
The people with money still have it and will spend. Thats why we see more jobs announced today. Growth is possible if you have the right product...particularly at the upper end. The guys at Land Rover Jaguar clearly have terrific products at the moment after years in the doldrums but this isnt about Conservative government , even though Mr Cameron often highlights this news, but essentially and totally about innovation and design. Do it right, design it right, and growth will follow.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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barry,at gdp 0.7 deeper and in resession,who are you trying to kid.it could end up full blown if osbourne dosent change tact sooner than later.but hey we shall see over the nexe 3 or 4 quaters shant we.
my early prediction,a bust and broken britain with nowhere to go,and begging bowels and cap in hand to any one who will listen.
conclusion,no confidence.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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barryw cannot ave a heart to think the way he does.
employers already have to much sway in the way they can dismiss people often without reason, and should not be made even easier.
we saw in the building days how corners were cut, health and safety went out of the window, and injuries/deaths rose
so no give a more even playing field, maybe then staff woyuld feel part of the set up and help make the profits for the company
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Ah...we posted at the same time Brian. You are saying there what Ed Balls said earlier as he called for plan B...Labour were fairly shocked at these figures as were a number of city peeps.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I have today been at one of my regular investment and economic conferences. I will blog about the economy tomorrow from a professional, not a political, point of view.
Keith - your problem is that your 'heart', so to speak, is at the root of the economic problems. If the head were allowed to rule the heart in economic we would all be better off and there would be a lot more jobs around. You simply defend your protectionism with the other extreme, that is as unacceptable as the other extreme of employment protectionism we have now.