I dont know quite how it would work but I feel something like a care cooperative may be the answer , Southern Cross had other issues , but I just dont know how providers can supply the care people deserve for the price the Public authority will pay.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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what we don't want is a company backed by city hedge fund managers that donate money to a political party, get a contract to run a hospital, then say that patent care is at risk
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Independent.
``Cameron seeks to push one million workers out of the public sector.``to creat John Lewis ``Mutual``style public services.
By stealth services across the country are being taken over by their own staff-state funded-but independent.
Cameron claims the number of services that adopt the scheme will be his Big Society`vision.
Big problem is Central Surrey Health.....a social enterprise ``Mutual`` given a ``Big Society`` award by Cameron............have recently lost its contract to ...........Assure Medical .........( private company ) because the ``Big Society``group could not provide a £ 10 million bond required in the terms and conditions ?????
By stealth the private companies can,if allowed, take over the NHS
We all know every organisation can be improved and the NHS is no different,but private companies cut to suit their requirements and profit will be their main concern and aim.
How can profit be paramount in the health provision and care of people?
The attempt to privatise the NHS will be fought all the way................it needs to survive.
Southern Cross had so many other issues it is not really realistic to make comparisons. And it is possible to cut costs without cutting services if the right research is done and people who are not performing are not expected to remain in place. A huge cost in the public sector goes on not being able to get rid of people who are not up to the job. I am not talking about random sackings and "cuts in staff" - I am talking about the massive drain on our taxes spent on staff who cannot do what the job requires. That is, in laymans terms, us as taxpayers funding carers who don't care, managers who can't manage, and nurses who we have all read about but who, largely because of unions and unrealistic employment law, retain their posts and go on to even more negligence and cruelty. Another huge waste of our money is on poorly targeted services that, if they were targeted better, would cost less and achieve more.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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different issue bern, we are talking about the people that have taken over the hospital in cambridge that are there purely for profit and admit that patient care will suffer.
not only in the hospital they have taken on but any future ones too.
What are you basing that on? "Purely for profit"? I am not, genuinely, a promoter of privatisation, but I am a promoter of an open mind and a creative approach to health and social care and support. It is, realistically, the only way forward.
Jan Higgins
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The other day somebody from the Cambridge lot said they wanted to run the hospital John Lewis style with the staff having a significant input.
Patient care is already suffering when you get kicked out of hospital as soon as possible sometimes before you are fit and well.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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looking at the company statement again they say that staff wages and benefits would stay the same then go on to say they would cut costs.
after employees the only costs are those difficult people the patients.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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You forgot inefficiency and waste.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Bern and Jan are right, very very much so.
It has been said many times that "dead wood" or put another way, people who are not pulling their weight or not doing their job properly, know it is so difficult for any company - public or private, to get rid of them; many of them almost don't care about the quality of work they do, or the care they should give.
The unions will fight any company who wants and needs to get rid of these useless people, even though they know that it is harming that company's chances of working well or making a profit.
There are also many practices of running a business - again, public or private, that are wasteful, where things can be done better and more efficiently.
If good managers are allowed to manage (manage people and finding ways of doing things better) and good supervisiors are allowed to supervise (supervise staff and ensure those new, good practices, are put in place) and the staff are doing their job properly too, there will be a lot of efficiencies and savings made.
It's a culture that has to change if things are to improve.
Roger
Absolutely!!!
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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In the Interest of Freedom of Information;
For a year Andrew Lansley has refused to release a report into the risks of his NHS plans, written by his own Department of Health. Now the Information Commissioner has ordered him to publish it. But he could still keep it hidden for another month - until after key votes on his plans have taken place.
We can't afford to wait that long. The House of Lords is debating the NHS plans right now - if the report on risks to the NHS is released immediately, it could persuade key members of the House of Lords to stand up to the government.
It took me two minutes to e-mail Charlie
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/nhs-secret-report" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Click to send your MP an email:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/nhs-secret-reporthoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i am not surprised that the report has been surpressed, circle admitted back in june that they had bitten off more than they could chew yet still get the contract for the hospital.
we will eventually find out the truth about the rest of the plans, could be too late as reg says though.
I just need to ask again: how are we assured currently that patients are not at risk and their needs are being met?