Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Once again Reg your focus is on ownership not the actual care results. It does not matter if it is owned and operated by a private company, what matters is the quality of care and that everyone has access 'free at the point of use'.
Jan Higgins
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Reg,
I did not mention Private Health Care, a radical change could equally mean the NHS just changing its wasteful practices freeing up more money. As for propaganda yours is certainly not working.
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Keith Sansum1
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barryw
thats partly correct
most of us who have dealt with private companies have seen how they rip you off
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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......The NHS has said some scans taken at the William Harvey Hospital in Ashford and the Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother Hospital in Margate contained poorly-worded reports and featured technical errors......
This just shows how money is wasted and patients put at risk
......The scans are understood to have been carried out by an agency worker rather than an NHS employee, and no one is to receive disciplinary action......
Will the agency worker now go to another hospital and do the same poor life threatening job.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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agency being a private company
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well I will let you know my bone scan is on Monday.Its that leg again.
Agency needed because of poor recruitment and retention by the Trust, don't forget, Keith. And it could have been an NHS agency. How blinkered do you have to be?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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An agency employee would be working under the management and direction of the NHS staff, not under the direction of the agency who only supplies staff. This kind of balls up at the Harvey is always down to poor management who should always take responsibility for their staff.
We see Keith's anti-business attitudes here. Personally I find the worse rip-off merchant is the government who take a massive amount of tax of us, wastes the bulk of it and then drives the country into repeated financial crises. That is not a party political statement, but a realistic one on how governments work. My trust is in private companies every time.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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bern;
blinkered? me?
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BarryW, we agree on all of this. I need to take another aspirin.
But, seriously, how is it that people cling to the wreckage of a model that is so past its sell by date it has mould?!
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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That is an easy one Bern, they are afraid of change.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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bern;
i think as iv said many times there are a number of issues even baz and i could agree on probably not totally but wanting the same outcome
i think we have been round and round the houses(or hospitals in this case lol)
and views are known from the many contributors
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That really is the whole problem Bern and is at the root of why the NHS is so inadequate. There is this huge myth about it and any suggestion radical change is needed prompts politicians into a knee jerk reaction, thinking of votes for themselves rather than better healthcare for people. Then there are those who are simply blind to any kind of intelligent re-think, still immersed in that out-dated mythology that surrounds the NHS and only too willing to follow the herd and believe the scare stories.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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baz;
there are a number of posters who have beliefs/ideals on how health care could/should be produced.
just because your view is not shared by some does not mean they are wrong
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I challenge that, Keith. From what I can see it is the sentimental view of the NHS that clouds judgement rather than an intelligent hard look at how things are now and what would meet current needs best. I don't think it is as much about beliefs (and what place do they have, realistically, in the planning of services other than church services?) as it is about a misguided inability to recognise that things have changed while the monolith has not.
Keith I am aware of the types of healthcare options available. Probably more than most.
On the point of the scan issue
Agency staff are now employed by the NHS under the NHS run agency NHS professionals. So the emplyee who misread/ reported the scans will probably have been either an NHS employee doing extra hours or an NHS employee who works soley for the agency due to the flexability offered.
Ross Miller
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Keith take off the rose tinted specs and look at the real issue here, which is that successive governments of both colours have tinkered with the NHS (because it is some bloody holy cow) and have danced round the elephant in the room which is that NHS management (people, policies and procedures) and the DoH are totally inadequate and incapable of running a 21st Century healthcare system.
It is time to try something different, something radical and I dont mean getting GPs to commission hospital services - another classic fudge
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Ross, well put
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As always, Ross, nicely put!