howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Peter makes a valid point in that decisions are made in Dover offices that affect people living in Dover and they go home somewhere else knowing that those decisions will not impact on their lives.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Rubbish.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,879
Howard is right, I suspect they go to and from their offices in their cars via Jubilee Way and I would be willing to bet the only time they go along the sea front is when they go to our one and only posh hotel.
There is no point in even replying to Vic he is so blinkered about DHB and their attitude.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Some live in Dover District
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I will take in all the points raised in 542 and respond in due course.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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The latest Annual Report (2014) can be found
here, with Board Members and Senior Management Team on p62. Apart from Jenkins and Waggott none of the other names trip off the tongue.
There's also their Corporate Social Responsibility Report, the info in that is at odds with the negative views expressed on here, so either they're not being believed or not getting their message across.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
Strange comment Peter.
I thought former Chairman of the People's Port was now a Director. I know he does not live in Dover but would have thought both he & fellow Community Director [although Eastry resident] would fit your bill.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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God one Mr Watkins they are still upset because they did not get the port ,as you said even Mr Wiggins does not live in Dover and he is on your side,or so he said at the time,I do not know why you keep on about the pier we still have a free pier over a mile long to walk along and you can see a lot more from that one then the one that is closed for two years. + see more at the western hights and the white cliffs of Dover ,when the pier reopens there will be more viewing points +it will be a working pier ,up till now it has had no use but to walk along at times and have a cup of tea.So it is all a very big + for Dover and the D.H.B.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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Apologies for shouting - THE PIER IS NEVER GOING TO REOPEN!
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
Ref the pier Vic I guess you haven't actually bothered reading DHB press releases, it will not be reopening, and as for the Admiralty DHB are soon to start charging for access and I think with your bad legs you would strugggle to even get up the steps to it let alone step over the hundreds of fishing rods.
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Regarding the issue of Dover residency surely people who live in Eythorne, Lydden and dare I say it River who champion Dover causes are more useful than people who have spent their whole lives in the town and never shown an interest in it.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Sue Nicholas wrote:Some live in Dover District
Which is not the same as living in Dover which was Howard's point in post 541.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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River is just a part of Dover with a parish council .And the pier will reopen when the work is done post 549 is wrong and it is himself that needs to go and have a look at the new lie out not me.Maxton is also a parish but would you say that is not part of Dover.Some call River Dover west.it is a very nice place to live and I am lucky to live out here near the parks and nice members of the public but I would not call it a parish even that it is one ,to near Dover in fact part of the parish is in Dover. many years ago when it had farm land all round it and Dover was smaller , yes it was a parish in its own rights but not now.As going back to the pier in about two years and it is open again ,I will not say I told you so, .I will say it now..
"I told you so"
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Dover West applies to the County Division
.Which takes in all the villages River included.For those of us who fought hard and long for Parish Status we are a village.If you travel up CommonLane open country side part of River Travel up Minnnis lane open country side part of River .Travel through Alkam Road open country side part of River .Chilton Avenue open countryside part of River.Cowper Road open country side
I f people who have settled in River took part more into village life it would be more helpful.
I agree the Port isn't just about Dover.
My husband worked at the Port but we chose to live in River.
River has its own War Memorial,Village school ,and village shops.So I'm proud to live in River the community I worked for long before I became. Councillor,for twenty seven years.
If you were born in a village as I was you understand Community,and support it.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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Vic you should let DHB know they'll need to change their plans, they thought it would be closed except for planned escorted access, you should do it soon though before they spend anymore money on plans that don't fit the Matcham masterplan!!!
Arte et Marte
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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No Vic, but I do have a business and other property in Dover, and while I'm not a town resident any more, at least I live in Dover district, as you do. Did you know that DHB once commissioned a study by consultants entitled 'How to Distance the Port of Dover from its decaying hinterland'?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Paul Watkins wrote:Strange comment Peter.
I thought former Chairman of the People's Port was now a Director. I know he does not live in Dover but would have thought both he & fellow Community Director [although Eastry resident] would fit your bill.
Not yet a director Paul, he was due to take up his post on 1 May but I now hear on the grapevine that these appointments have been postponed, for reasons that I have been told but cannot go into here for legal reasons.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 1467- Registered: 30 Jan 2015
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Surely, the modernisation that DHB wants to do at the Western Docks must be worth losing the rusty old pier for. This modernisation will be in line with the rest of the DTZ. We lose a pier and a little beach but for a far nicer outcome in my view.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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Vic Matcham wrote:And the pier will reopen when the work is done post 549 is wrong and it is himself that needs to go and have a look at the new lie out not me.
I have looked at it, and understood it. This IS the proposed new layout (courtesy of DHB website), the only bit of the PoW pier remaining as a pier is the very last bit with the slight bend, the rest of it will be covered over and will become part of the port operational area with no public access.
At the AGM of the Dover Society last night the Chairman, who is also Chairman of the Port Community Forum, said there have been concerns raised by several (he didn't mention names obviously) that after Stage 1 of the redevelopment has taken place then Stages 2 and 3 might be abandoned due to lack of funds - and he mentioned that as the project is part funded by the EU the result of the referendum might have an effect on future funding. Though I'm sure he wasn't trying to influence people in how to vote
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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A lot of industry insiders have expressed doubts about the viability of the whole Western docks regeneration after the stage 1 with many saying it will end up a wasteland.
