Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thats half way there but still needs to try it out at times to see if it works and still need the centre setup ,but Tilmanstone is geting there by the sound of it well done.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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I will have a word with the Parish Council.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thank you I would come out and talk to them if they would like that.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The Dover forum can play a major part in this because we have members in all the parishs and towns it can point out and does now where help is needed right away.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Just think a old person living on their own cut off and they runs out of food ,all that person does is ring the centre or help number and help can get to them or they have a fall. The list goes on and on thats why the centres need to be setup.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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Lesley, I hope you don't think I'm complaining or giving negative comments, just putting across a realistic viewpoint. We heard Vic's plan at a Lydden parish council meeting but as usual he came up with it out of the blue without a request for it to be an Agenda item so we couldn't have approved expenditure on it anyway.
We decided there was no need to do more than we were doing at present as any new expenditure would be unrealistic with our small precept - we have a village hall with a kitchen area and male/female/disabled toilets and several keyholders; we have all the local contact knowledge we need via the clerk and councillors as we know and are known in our community; our contact details are published in the monthly village newsletter which we subsidise and which goes to all households except a few outlying ones, in notice boards and on our website; and we maintain contact with the necessary authorities by having a regular agenda item for our district and county councillors and PCSO, who are invited to speak or send a written report and usually turn up in person if they can.
As for Vic saying camp beds only cost a few bob this is an example of how we have to be realistic in deciding how to spend our precept - we could fit about 50 camp beds in the village hall and that might be a realistic target for an emergency situation (about a coachload of people), but the cheapest I can find on a quick look on Amazon are £15 without blankets - and we would have nowhere to store them securely. Even if we could find storage, beds and blankets in total would be about 10% of our total annual precept and more than 50% of our uncommitted funds, not something we feel our residents would welcome.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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Vic Matcham wrote:Just think a old person living on their own cut off and they runs out of food ,all that person does is ring the centre or help number and help can get to them or they have a fall. The list goes on and on thats why the centres need to be setup.
Vic, that is totally unrealistic to expect a parish council to set up an emergency centre manned 24hrs a day - you would be duplicating what is already available from the major emergency services.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have already talked about Lydden if you read it,I know about the small amount you have ,also told you there is funding which the parish council can get. And it was not out of the blue our talks about it went on for some weeks.And was on a Agenda I even told you I was going to the meetings at KCC.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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Vic Matcham wrote:The Dover forum can play a major part in this because we have members in all the parishs and towns it can point out and does now where help is needed right away.
That's something we can agree on! I hope the links I put up to the DDC and KCC websites are useful.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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I thought this thread was about a really serious emergency situation that affected an area not one or two people.
I am on my own a lot of the time during the day, I better add out of choice. My emergency contacts are in the following order, different family members even if they are at work, a couple of neighbours, 101 or 999 depending what the problem was, the very last place I would think of contacting would be any council or councillor.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Its about a major emergency or any member of the public that can not get help to them . But you think what you like,I know that it is aggd plan and parish councils should set them up .They do not need to have some one there 24/7 as some one has put it. If you feel safe etc good ,but there are many that do not.You moan if a council does not help then you turn round and say they are the last place you would think about asking.I hope you never have to. end.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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I simply can not envisage any emergency where I would call on the council for help, there is no need to be so indignant that I have the ability to sort most things for myself as I have done since my husband joined the ferries about 40 years ago. We all moan about the council at times, even you Vic do not seem to think they are perfect all the time.
If I was in a similar situation as those unfortunate people in the West Country things might be different but I doubt it as I have learnt how to deal with problems big and small.
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Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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I am missing something here Vic? Has Dover suffered major flooding to require such drastic action or is it being moved to Somerset?
If the Parish councils need ideas of how to spend the precept, perhaps they should abolish it .........along with the councils.
Household insurance usually covers temporary accommodation for those who are unable to use their properties due to fire, flood etc., so why the need to involve makeshift options?
You'll have us numpties building bunkers in our gardens next!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Bit unfair with some of the comments. An emergency is by nature an unexpected event and hopefully the use of such procedures will never be needed. Doesn't mean it's not wise to have something in place tho',
Mum always told me to keep clean knickers in my handbag just in case!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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As I have said it has already happen in Dover more then once over the years,I aready expected the kind of posts most of you are puting but I do not care as I said I know I am right,I have had to put up with posts like the ones we are seeing for many years but I hope that the 400 or more viewers that have seen this in one day only, will act on it.I can add no more to it nor will I go ahead and think and say what you like I care not.:mad
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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fascinating thread with so many posts/opinions on this so far today.
i think we are all agreed that extremes of weather are becoming more common, i suspect philip's sock in the tumble drier maybe the cause.
the people most affected by snow drifts, floods and the like live in rural communities and village halls seem to be equipped with the basic essentials like kitchens and toilets to deal with emergencies.
it seems that camp beds are out of the question due to cost and storage issues, would blankets be an affordable option?
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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It's more about finding somewhere for groups of people who temporarily have nowhere to go in an emergency - using both meanings of the term, which is why the public loos were built at Temple Ewell in the days before the A2 bypass.
In the case of Lydden we have tables and chairs enough to fill the hall, and a set of judo mats for any who want to lay down or have a bit of exercise. We don't have facilities to store emergency supplies and have no shop in the village so we would have to rely on local goodwill, which would be forthcoming, if they became needed.
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Lesley Ives, Quote,'Mum always told me to keep clean knickers in my handbag just in case!' Unquote.
It took time Lesley, but I got there in the end! You would need to be in a group of like minded people to have enough to be effective!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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But you do not have a correlator or plan in place to make it work as one.you also have a yard full of the kind of lorrys,and equidment that would be needed if you got cut off they could move or go anywhere you need to get that company within the setup plan,they were in mine.So much can and should be done,that company also has the room for anystoring that might be needed.But hi just treat it as one big joke till it happens to you.
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Do nothing and nothing happens.
