howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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andy 36
vic is very adept at dishing it out so i feel sure he can take it when it is returned.
the thread is about what parish councils are doing, i believe you live in guston which has a parish council.
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"Thank you David. In which case, Ray....my fullest apologies. Off to Morrisons to buy a fresh humble pie......"
"No problem Andy, understandable as I was commenting on a post around #5 to #8 where Vic had come in to state the 9 or so elections that he was going to stand in next and was saying what he is doing now on his four councils.
Which has now disappeared and so it might look now like I'm having a go at him for no reason.
Hopefully now we can get back to the subject of Howard's original post."
Nicely dealt with gentlemen
Just to intercede at this point and pose a question if I may? Why would anyone want to represent a Parish Council they do not have a vested interest in? I live in Tower Hamlets and have close relations in Shepherdswell, therefore I have an interest in how these 'parishes' are affected by local issues, but I have absolutely no interest in how River, Lydden, Coldred etc are run. Why would I wish to become a representative on one, let alone several?
Surely there is a case to answer in limiting one elected representative to one council? Can anyone enlighten me as to why we have a situation where one person, not of the parish, can sit on multiple councils?
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Indeed it does, Howard. I know nothing of them at all, save that they seem to be doing a very good job. Guston has had some excellent improvements done recently to communal facilities, and very pleasing it is to report. I'm a great believer in keeping things as local as possible, and from what I have seen in Guston recently, that is exactly the way things should be. I don't know anything about the Council, though.
As for Vic, you are SO wrong - he finds the constant insults on here hurtful, spiteful and completely unnecessary - and if only people would stop with the personal taunts, jibes and insults, the forum would progress and return to being something worth revisiting more often. Perhaps all parties should stop with the taunts.
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Jan Higgins
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Howard, could I make a suggestion that only moderators can delete posts, then we would not have a situation like you mentioned where the posts that follow those deleted do not make much sense.
I was tempted to respond to Andy's #43 to explain my earlier comments but thought it would be a waste of time as it appears Vic can do no wrong in his eyes.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i am confused too jan i have no idea what posts have been deleted.
andy
vic has had more posts deleted over the years than any other current member, the ones aimed at a long standing female member were in the disgusting range. ok he deleted some himself and the others were not seen by many as i saw them quickly and acted accordingly.
once he got bored with that he decided to follow every post i made with demands for a new moderator as i was basically useless
after tiring of getting no response from me he then decided to report me to the police because i would not remove a post that he disapproved of.
you refer to taunts and insults as if every thread was permeated with them when in fact it is on a minority, usually the ones where the same people post but don't post elsewhere.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Saw a wedding picture of you and the beautiful Michelle at the Parish Church flower festival this weekend Andy.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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OK Andy you can finish your humble pie and come out now
Keith Sansum1
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Ray
everyone has read the posts even if they have been deleted
im sure if you find a candidate living in lydden for next election that person would win
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Jan Higgins wrote:I was tempted to respond to Andy's #43 to explain my earlier comments but thought it would be a waste of time as it appears Vic can do no wrong in his eyes.
I'm not quite sure what I've done to upset Jan Higgins, but this is clearly one of the taunts I'm talking about. one such where the forum would be a damned sight better place without prejudicial remarks such as this. For your information, Jan, Vic IS a friend of mine but if you believe your own words you clearly know neither me nor Vic: not for one second do I believe him to be faultless, he courts publicity where he shouldn't and would be better off leaving well alone and he deliberately winds people up the wrong way. My comments are designed to counter some of the lynch mob posts on here which I find utterly disgusting. If that's so wrong, then I make no apologies.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Andy
It's good that you accept mr matchams faults,
now, to be fair to those that have replied,
Ray was just replying as a fellow parish councillor on Lydden parish council, trying to explain to mr matcham that although mr matcham feels it's ok to let the electorate of lydden down, Ray and others in Lydden would field a candidate to oppose mr matcham so they don't have to hang around each meeting to go over a report already discussed,
Think they were fair comments
at no point did mr matcham deny rays comments, in fact he attempted to justify his lateness
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Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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Dover Express 24th November 2005 '' The meeting was delayed due to the late arrival of Councillor Vic Matcham and the validity of the meeting was questioned as no vote had been taken to delay the meeting''.
I won't give the rest of the reported meeting as in hindsight it may reflect badly upon my judgement and I won't be able to defend my post as I am off to Strasbourg in a while.
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:this link has already been on here in another thread but i think it deserves its own.
i am not a supporter of town councils but strongly in favour of parish councils if they are run by enthusiastic people.
i look in at this site now and again and see that a lot of organising and volunteer work goes on here besides the the outdoor table tennis.
would be interesting to hear what other parish councils do with the small amounts of money at their disposal.
http://www.lyddenparish.org.uk/#/table-tennis/4577177027
I am puzzled by this I highlighted.
A Town Council is a Parish Council - they are exactly the same by way of powers and the same 'level' of government.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i feel sure that you are aware of the difference barry, dover and deal town councils are populated by people under political banners, parish councillors made up of local people that want to do something to improve their local surroundings without having to report back to any political master.
i have been closely following capel and lydden for some time and with the miniscule amounts of money at their disposal actually achieve things with a combination of team work and plugging away at finding grants where they are available.
not forgetting that some do the actual physical work to help things along.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Andy Cooper wrote:I'm not quite sure what I've done to upset Jan Higgins, but this is clearly one of the taunts I'm talking about. one such where the forum would be a damned sight better place without prejudicial remarks such as this. For your information, Jan, Vic IS a friend of mine but if you believe your own words you clearly know neither me nor Vic: not for one second do I believe him to be faultless, he courts publicity where he shouldn't and would be better off leaving well alone and he deliberately winds people up the wrong way. My comments are designed to counter some of the lynch mob posts on here which I find utterly disgusting. If that's so wrong, then I make no apologies.
You had not upset me at all and I am well aware you are a friend of Vic (which you have mentioned before) but as your post has proved it would have been a waste of time by replying. I hasten to add this is not a taunt the same as I doubt your post was meant to be a taunt.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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just a short note on parish/town councils
even on parish councils there are members of political parties
no different
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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but they don't stand on a party ticket keith and don't have group voting.
you only have to look through this thread to see that capel, guston and st margaret's have play areas and other facilities installed and lydden are working on a play area in addition to other successes.
a large and heavily populated area such as maxton, elms vale and priory still does not have one after a decade.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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the play area in e vale is nothing to do with the town council.
lib dems still stand on party tickets
other parties or members stand maybe not using party but everyone is aware who they are
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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back on party rather than doing something useful.
says it all really, parish councils can do things by working together but our politicised town council with just short of a million quid budget fail miserably in so many areas.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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don't think its relevant howard if im honest
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