Reg, Roger mentions grammar schools and secondary mods. Or are you being selective in your inclusion?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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you are joking vic, she took us further in and as for the armed forces it was her government that stopped defending the falklands and sparked the conflict with so many loss of lives.
many of the veterans that won the falklands back were then thrown on the scrapheap afterwards.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Your history must be better then mine then.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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my history is when volunteering for crisis at christmas in the eighties and seeing former servicemen with serious mental health problems left relying on the odd free meal from charities to survive.
vic
are you saying that the islans were defended under thatcher?
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 93..97..101...Education is continuous....some of us are successful in life,business....
..........some very successful....................how did we end up with different views?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Howard - your memory is faulty there a bit. The MOD did plan to scrap HMS Endurance, the South Atlantic patrol ship, but that had little firepower anyway. The big problem was Labour's scrapping of HMS Ark Royal leaving us without conventional carrier airpower. There were some rather short-sighted plans as well to reposition the Navy more to the North Atlantic corridor as well reducing its blue water capacity. But at no time did they decide to stop defending the Falklands, there was no suggestions that the Royal Marine presence would be withdrawn.
After the Falklands War, far from throwing troops on the scrapheap the forces were strengthened. Defence spending actually increased at 3% above inflation for 5 years.
The conflict was sparked entirely because of the Argentine military dictatorship was in trouble and needed a distraction in an attempt to stay in power. It was nothing to do with UK Defence plans but if we had a proper carrier, like the old Ark Royal, then they may not have invaded.
A lesson there for now.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Just maybe then my history is not to bad,but just for the records,I also aske to go to the falklands,they were in need of Meds, The homeoffice phoned me back and said"Mr Matcham with your army background we could use you,but you are to old.
BarryW, being realistic, throwing percentages about is meaningless. Like Howard, I noticed a huge upswing in vets with mental heath issues around that time when I was working in specific mental health projects. Figures, stats, can say what we like, but our own experiences are different.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Bern - That is a subject I tackled in a recent blog. Yes, we do not and never have done enough regarding the mental health of our veterans but that is a different issue.
Sorry BarryW - I should pay more attention! But your response seemed linked to Howards #104. I will now go and read your blog properly!
Keith Sansum1
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blimey i go away and look what haapens people have a bundle with barryw lol
now everyone knows that i have no time for maggie, nor what she did to m,any people in her time in power.
martin;
your right as iv said so many times, many of us post what we feel, many posters also have no political backgrounds.
it is a little sad barryw chooses to abuse and not read other posters, but i do understand barryw has strong right wing political views and thats fine.
garyc
many miners, miners support groups, volunterrs did as you did try to find solutions.
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Mrs.Thatcher era/regime/government put our Manufacturing on the`back burner`...........manufacturing produces economic growth............She and her government concentrated on Finance / Services.
Financial Services are not fit for Purpose and vulnerable from Frankfurt/Asia markets.
Economic Growth looks destined to flatline for one or two years..........Political pressure will steadily grow!!!
Makes `Bombardier` decision `error of judgement`
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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lack of decision when referring to bombadier, our european allies have publicly stated the dave and george can put it out for public tender again.
not a peep from the cobbled together people.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Strange is it not - Reg you totally ignore official figures in favour of the myths Labour would prefer people to believe. Manufacturing increased during the Thatcher era, it decreased during the Blair/Brown years.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Strange is it not - Reg you totally ignore official figures in favour of the myths Labour would prefer people to believe. Manufacturing increased during the Thatcher era, it decreased during the Blair/Brown years.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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Not sure about "official figures" but do know of one large manufacturer, employing half a town, that closed completely during the Thatcher years as I was working there at the time. After the next two companies I went to also went out of business (not my fault in either case) I went to where the money was, working in pubs catering to yuppies.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
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Just been making note of the fact on Barry's Blog that on this day in 1990 Mrs Thatcher bit the dust. She quit after losing the support of her cabinet. The era came to a tearful end on the steps of Downing Street.
A Conservative implosion led by Michael Heseltine caused her downfall, rather than anything done by the opposition.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Correct PaulB - it was sparked by Geoffrey Howe's speech attacking her over her Brugge speech and Heseltine was the knifeman. It was a terrible things to do after she won the leadership vote when she had that challenge.
Brian Dixon
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thats life barry you never know whats around the corner untill it hits you.
keep your chin up toot sweet.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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maggie as i say was good for her people,
and its correct it was not the labour party who stopped maggie in her tracks
geoffrey howes famous speech slagging off maggie followed by mr hestltine turning the knife, saw her own party bring her down.ned a lot earlier
of course it should have happened a lot earlier
but we are happy for small mercies
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