Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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Could not stand the pompus woman, so will not be watching any film to remind me of her.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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LOL Harry -One thing about Mrs T, she was not pompous whatever else some people think of the great lady.
Brian Dixon
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harry,you are right she was pompus,allso so far up her backside it was unbeliuveable.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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I agree with Bern. It does not matter what we think of her, she was and still is part of our history.
I am not so sure that her followers will be so pleased after the film is released.
Many of these million youth's, now unemployed, are still not aware of how far the Tories are willing to go, this film might just backfire very badly for them.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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I said when David Cameron got elected What Maggie did to the miners DC could do to the rest of us.That isn't an insult to the miners,I had some in my family,but I fear for the young ,the elderly,the disadvantaged because they are easily attacked.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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And like the miners' leaders, do the groups you mention have the stated aim of bringing down the Government?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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The Silver Voters seem a subversive bunch to me, Peter.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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quite right mark be very careful we are watching your every move.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Silver heads remember the Thatcher 80`s...................and there back.
1,200,000 ......Youngsters unemployed..........ingredients for unrest.....and `ripple` consequencies.
Unemployment edging to............3,000,000.
Coalition Government,not the silver heads,will bring itself down.
But this isn't the 80s. The 80's clearly informed what we do and what we are now, it's our history - but the global map is different, politics is managed differently, and the players behave differently. There is still, and always will be, greed and rampant self-aggrandisement, and there is still an underclass. They have different names but they will always be there. And the coalition shares but does not bear all of the responsibility for current factors. What would be refreshing would be a bunch of diverse people saying, yes, blimey, we are in a state, it is partly my parties fault and partly yours - what say we work together chaps?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Dream on, Bern, if it were not for party-political sniping and point-scoring, some forum members would have very little to say.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
You say it like it's a bad thing.......
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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bern's right on this one the economy is in a desperate state and needs the best brains to put aside idealogical beliefs and work together.
mind you i still believe in santa claus.
I have just been informed - pauses for sobs - about the tooth fairy. Don't even talk to me.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That's very naive there Howard.
Define the 'best brains' for one thing. You may know where you want to go but different people will see different routes to go there but the problem is that too many get lost on their route...
It is simple enough.
We need more jobs in the wealth creating private sector - that is surely not arguable.
To do that you apply common sense. That would dictate de-risking employing someone to encourage employers to employ, How do you de-risk - get rid of the mound of legislation that makes it risky. Make it easier to sack someone. Reduce costs to businesses, i.e. lower taxes. Make it worthwhile investing your money too, more incentives. Also of course make it worthwhile someone taking risks to ensure they would get the reward for that risk, lower taxes for instance on Capital Gains and Income (flat simple and low taxes would help) and certainly get shot of the 50p rate.
That is what would do the job. Propose it and then you will get all the ideological clap-trap about 'employment rights' 'them and us' and so on. We see it all here and you join in on that Howard!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Blair tried a Government Of All TalentS approach, the acronym was enough to condemn the idea to oblivion.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I mentioned on here a couple of weeks ago or so, about raising the minimum wage to £10 per hour and then instead of paying out benefit money to individuals, pay the difference to the businesses for their increased wage costs.
Businesses could then start up more apprenticeships for young people and general employment; people would want to work for £10.00 an hour, it would help their self-respect, self-pride and increase growth - wouldn't it ?
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Actually Roger that would lose a lot of jobs. Better to just drop the minimum wage, it is counter productive.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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barry
you have confirmed what i thought, you and many others can ony see one way forward regardless of the economic situtation.
dogma will always win the day over pragmatism.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Come off it Howard. This is nothing to do with dogma. This is about how to create jobs. Only businesses do that in the real world and how else other than what I have said can you create jobs?