Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
- Posts: 7,819
Yes a very unpleasant post and overall posts like that are very counter productive.
I have to say that I have thought long and hard about this now, thanks to all the comments and thought-provoking debate. And I have to agree with Chris. The idea of getting rid of the eyesore that is Burlington House had created such a rush of good feeling that I had, personally, overlooked the longer term effects of such an unattractive proposition that would be put in its place. Dover really does, genuinely, have so many assets and they would be hidden from, actively hidden from, public view. The attractions of the town (such as they currently are, but hopefully with opportunities for development) would not be made clear and plain for visitors.
Here is Dovers foot, and here is a shotgun. Take your best aim.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
Those who don't like the scheme will have the opportunity to make their views known now the planning application is in.
Watty
Ah, a consultation................
It is a bit of a cleft stick, though, isn't it? Currently no development, or a potential development that has some good bits but a massive down side.........
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i am still very confused about this wall, chris is saying that it is something similar to the one in berlin and roger maintains that it is not an ubroken stretch.
will have to pop up to whitfield and look closely at the plans.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
That one was uncalled for Mr Norman,I think you also need to look at your own post,most of them are at their best are rude.Please as it has been said go along to the meetings and have your say,But I can not see that happing,many can do it on the forum but few when it come down to doing it in person on a one to one or at a public meeting,so we are left with you only doing it on the forum.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I shall be at the planning meeting and will, if permitted, speak in favour of the application.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
I think there will a Q for that Peter,even I will be asking for 3mins.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
I can't talk about the value/ design or whatever on the DTIZ plans, as I am on the Planning Committee that will discuss and decide.
There could/would never be a development for the Town (any Town) that would please everyone, that is an impossible task for any architect.
It is silly to say it is like the Berlin wall, absolutely no comparison - on height or length and silly to compare the two.
On a personal note, I have the highest respect and regard for Paul Watkins, he has the Leadership, the insight and the wherewithall to steer Dover forward in the direction it needs to go.
There is simply no one who even comes close to Paul with his vision for a brighter Dover and District.
Roger
I cant get up to Whitfield during office hours , so would someone who knows, mind telling me,
How high is the wall ?
What is the total length of the wall ?
Where does it run from and to ?
I would be really greatful for the information
I would support Rogers view of PaulW. Not everyone can be pleased, and not everyone can get it right every time. Humans, eh....?! Tch.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Yes I would broadly support Roger's view of PaulW although I am not normally given to bestowing such fulsome praise as Roger heaps upon his Dear Leader.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,894
Sarah you beat me to it.
. They were going to be my questions plus what will it be made of concrete or brick.
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
Shall certainly keep my eyes peeled for the planning applications as I and I guess many others will be raising objections
The scheme as currently proposed replaces a carpark with a nicely landscaped car park, some shops a restaurant, some trees and a wall - not really a big step forward in regenerating Dover is it? Certainly not reflecting the history of the area is it? Doesnt really reflect the needs of the town?
I for one actually like Paul and whilst I generally disagree with his politics I have always found him to be fair and reasonable when we have had dealings
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
The plans for the eastern part of DTIZ (excluding Burlington sore-thumb) would seem quite alright if they include a landscaped carpark. I do of-course hope that the buildings will not be cement blocks and that the mentioned wall will be made of red bricks or flint stones, to fit in with traditional town character, and not some cement-concrete job.
There is nothing more depressing in a town than concrete slabs.
Does anyone know what the planned buildings will look like, ie if they will be concrete blocks or made according to traditional Kentish architecture?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
alex
the wall will be a flint one.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
thats a bit tight howard,is the gezzer a skinflint.?
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
What bothers me is that a number of locals have made very constructive suggestions and in some cases even gone to the trouble of getting sketches etc produced of much better schemes than the one we are being offered, yet we are still getting a pretty poor third division deal
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
In Canterbury they had a similar problem with the old Tannery site. They held a couple of competitions for big national and international firms of architects, and just got grandiose rubbish which the town rejected. In came Andrew Clague, a local architect, Canterbury born and bred, with an unsolicited contribution which met with universal acclaim and is now almost completely built.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
