Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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DOVER TOWN INVESTMENT ZONE -
PLANNING APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED
Following the recent signing of legal agreements, planning applications have been submitted today (Monday 28 November) by Bond City for the major multi million pound redevelopment of the St James' area of Dover.
The applications have been submitted by the Council's development partners Bond City following recent consultation with the public. The proposals would provide a total of 120,000 sq ft of retail floor space within the area known as the Dover Town Investment Zone (DTIZ), and a new hotel and restaurants on the corner of Woolcomber Street and Townwall Street. These replace previous plans for a scheme anchored by an Asda superstore with new plans for a range of mostly smaller shops, restaurants and a 100 bed hotel around a central square of landscaped parking, with 445 parking spaces.
Cllr Paul Watkins, Leader of Dover District Council said: "Following the recent signing of the Development Agreements, we welcome the early submission of these planning applications. They will of course be considered through the Council's normal planning procedures. This is another very significant step forward for this major redevelopment."
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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You will remember we carried a very recent thread about the new signing of the deal with Bond City etc...this is a new development in the story and follows swiftly along in the wake of that signing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not dragging their feet this time paul, hopefully any problems can be ironed out quickly and work commences.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#4
Wait, Wait. Wait, For it not got to the planning dept yet.
#5
I think you will find Mr Matcham......that the Planning Department has many different facets.....
This comes under Regeneration..........a different kettle of fish....As apposed to Boxing in the Dark....pin your target down.....
Find out the correct Department and the Officer(s)
who are dealing with it all
Keep battling away ..................They probably want to offload all of this anyway....
Burlington House and the Carpark.......will they go
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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vic
the statement at the top says that it has gone to them today.
mr norman
the subject of burlington house going has been on many threads here recently.
the new hotel is going up first so that the antennae on burly can be transferred across.
bye bye burlington house.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well you all; know by now my feelings about the D.D.C planning,and that will not change overnight.
#8
I know mr mcsweeney..........
but, I do not trust them, they, it, all of it to keep their word, I am afraid....
Burlington House, the car park has to go....otherwise, there is no point in doing anything.....
The light and sun that will shine over Dover when they go, will be wonderful...
They are a blot on the landscape..............
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#9
it was the leader of the council that confirmed it on here that the hotel is taking precedence mr norman.
mr watkins is a man of few words on here, just states facts.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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I remember reading on here not that long ago that once the hotel is up the masts will be moved to the hotel as Howard says.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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This is very good news indeed and means we are step closer to the redevelopment.
There should be very little delay on progressing this now; teh archaeology is sorted, the CPO's (if required) will start very soon, so onwards and upwards.
Vic. Please don't continue to be so negative. We need positives here and need to think positive too.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#12
I am not negative at all ,but just going on what has happen in the pass,we have been here before,I would love to be wrong ,but we wait and see. It might go ahead if the Planning dept do not get their way this time.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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#13
Thinking positive, the Hotel; good. Getting rid of Burlington House; good. The wall............................... I'm sorry that is where it ends. This is still the worst design for Dover, although it will do wonders for DDC's parking revenue. The removal of Burlington House is still being used to sell Dover on a rubbish scheme that will do more to advertise Dover as somewhere that hides behind a wall and wants you to go away than it will to "regenerate". There is already a hotel there and an award winning restaurant and no matter how many times you use the word "landscaped", it is still just a big car park hiding behind a brick wall. At least loose the wall and rearrange the future empty shops so that it looks as if Dover welcomes visitors.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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correct chris, that is why i support the plan - the demise of burlington house.
the wall is the one thing that i am strongly against.
the current hotel is an eyesore though i understand it is very well run and popular with its guests.
the restaurant would surely be happy to be relocated within the new development, their food deserves a better setting than it presently is in.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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#15
But Howard, does replacing an existing hotel and moving an existing restaurant count as regeneration? All people driving through are going to notice is a wall with a loading bay.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Alec Sheldon
- Location: Dover
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#16
Why can't the masts on Burlington house be transferred to the Gateway flats. The rent paid could help reduce the maintenance costs paid by the residents.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#17
I know you can't please all the people all the time and that is especially so with the DTIZ project.
That area is called Townwall Street for a reason and this flint wall will not be too long, nor unsightly, but will hide the back-yard/goods inwards area of the store(s) there.
As could be seen from the plans that were on display recently, there will be breaks so that the attractiveness of the area can be seen very easily from the road and pavement.
This will be good for Dover, but I accept that everyone has a view.
Roger
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#18
Canterbury = Fake City Wall (mostly)
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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They would need to be highter. But on saying that,part of my working life was going round and puting the platforms up for them, in London at first we was puting them on very high buildings most over 100ft,but then we were told that the newones need not go so high.
Guest 694- Registered: 22 Mar 2010
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does that mean we may actually see a plan and i can show my business partner and start planning for the next 4 years.. couldnt do a 5 year plan...
