Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Vince the pleb has his eye on power.They love him in Brighton,way more than Nick.
He told them how he is saving the banking system,recreating Industrial
policy,rescuing the economy,cutting red tape and creating new jobs.
He said he has seen off the Head Bangers ( Tories ) that want to hire and fire and who
seem to find sacking people an Aphrodisiac.Andrew Mitchell being head head banger.
He said making jokes about Social Class was not thought good for unity in the
Coalition but being a pleb he could not resist it.
He added he did not know what Dave and Boris got up to at Eton,perhaps
it was a pillow fight that got out of control in the Dormi-tory.
He said he was not going to apologise....and stared out over Nick`s head.....plebs
don`t have to apologise they are roughy toughy`s.they don`t know what a mansion
is.....a jibe at public school boy`s which Nick is one.
He sees Coalition government to continue and hinted at his continuing contact with Ed
Milliband ....perhaps he sees himself as Deputy Prime Minister ?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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vince is definitely a battler and still ambitious, he looked out of things totally a while back.
i think that anyone who distances themselves from cleggy is looking to the future.
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Vince is definitely popular with the grassy roots of Liberalism. Uncle Vince they call him in affectionate tones. He was popular with the public too and always went down well on TV, especially on programmes like Question Time and so on. But that was before the last election fiasco, promise one thing and deliver another, it has tainted the lIbdems bigtime, many in the ranks are rumbling and grumbling that they neeed a new leader as brand Clegg is tarnished forever.
But I somehow cant see Vince as a leader, a good number two man perhaps, but leader i dont know... would he set the elctorate alight??.. they already had one older geezer as leader in Menzies Campbell..a nice guy but too old for the modern era where TV affability is all, and he wasnt a success.
Problem is...quality leaders are thin on the ground not just for libdems but in all parties.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think the grass root sandal wearers would plump for simon hughes who has very successfully kept a low profile since the election.
will be seen as untarnished and squeaky clean.
Keith Sansum1
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howard
even simon hughes is coming out of the woodwork
being interviewed on tv couple nights ago hes nothappy with the tories
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Brian Dixon
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no one is happy with the torys kieth,except yhe torys.
and by the way welcome back.lol
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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brian
just back for a short time
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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ok kieth,but you go and see dave at drt,got computrs from £120 +.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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In preparation for the Tory conference Flashman invites Bozo and family to Chequers to network in order
for Bozo to avoid upstaging him with his speech.They had a family football match ....fathers against children to
show both men were in the same `team`...they lost........don`t expect Bozo to play Flashman`s game...
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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if we can stop the bnp thats great
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy The Observer.....
Top Lib /Dems say Ed Balls must go before they will entertain a Lab / Lib Coalition....don`t they know they will not be in a
bargaining position and are still in crown cuckoo land
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Balls is probably the most dangerous man to have held public office since Chamberlain. God forbid that he should ever get his hands on the levers of power again. I would rather have Alexander as Chancellor.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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labour an balls will be there
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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How British Banks broke down.........Courtesy BBC Radio 4.....rvh precis.
In the good old days Bank Managers were conservative,traditional but they changed when some
bright spark advised Banks they had to be `efficient`and `profitable`.They foist products such as PPI,
personal protection insurance,and other cynical expensive products.
Then computers were used to automate and centralise data processing,previously carried out by
their branches.Then decision making was automated.....that`s when the trouble began because the
result was to distance Bankers from it`s customers.
It appeared to be logical and rational at the time but in hindsight centralisation was the problem
and Banks should have stuck to the business model they had that more or less worked.
The name of the game was to sell ``financial products``such as PPI and imposing tough targets on
branch staff in selling them.The targeting was harsh,severe,relentless leading to `casino `Banking
etc,etc.
In Germany we have all the highly computerised,highly centralised back office systems shared with
Banks all over Germany but most people use local banks in town.Banking is still face to face,without
targets and ``Bonuses``to divert staff from providing customers,business and personal with all
financial services.
Long term relationships result in quality lending and `less` defaults.The advantages of relationship
banking are widely recognised but British Banks work on a far more adversary model.
There is hope a Swedish Bank has 100 branches in Britain offering traditional relationship banking
to personal and business customers and due to the popularity of this ( old time ) model of Banking
to the British public and they are opening new branches every 10 days.
They offer basic banking with no targets or bonuses with face to face dealing and lending decisions
are made at the local branch.
Back to proper Banking again,slowly and without difficulty a form of Banking that may emerge which
benefits the British economy as a whole rather than just feeding on it.......
Fixing Britain's Broken Banks......via BBC Radio 4 website or download....
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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The branch's must also give it's employees the facilities also to be able to carry out such work
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think reg is spot on banks should have stuck to what they are good at, all the other stuff they try to do is best left to people who specialise in it.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Like 'finance Johnnies', Howard?
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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There should be a debate between Cameron and Milliband now. Just like this one:
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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The Conservative Party Chairman ``Micheal Green ``alias Graham Shapps in his guise of
a multi-millionaire web-site guru ,in charge of his company `How to Corp` gave guided tour of
Parliament with dinner at the commons for Internet entrepreneurs when he was a back bench-er in
2006.....
Dithering Dave still has the Andrew Mitchell saga to face.Tory MP`s are murmuring his position as
Chief Whip is `untenable ` because he will be unable to instill respect from MP`s put
on the carpet,as they will be reluctant to be bullied by ...one could say a `pleb`.......other Tearoom gossip is he is a `dead man
walking.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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why is cameron hanging on to him so long??
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