howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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most gave the bail hostel in the london road paul. busy in there today what with people having been to the post office to collect their sky subscriptions from dwp.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Brian
you give the impression your in favour of the changes?
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
Keith Sansum1 wrote:For one person jan maybe
Well of cause it is for one person as that is what this discussion has been about. I am not saying it is enough to live on when other expenses are taken into consideration but it is plenty for food which is what your post #50 was about.
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Keith Sansum1
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Had you read my post fully Jan, I said that was just one aspect
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Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Food - from fresh or frozen, but no pre-prepared microwave meals, feeding 6 from Monday to Friday, 5 on a Saturday and 9 on a Sunday, the monthly grocery shop is £245 on average, tops £280 and least £220 depending on what meals my wife and I plan to make over the next 30 days. If it was just me, I'd spend about £95 a month on food to prepare and eat at home.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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very parsimonious of you neil, 95 quid a month feeding all those hungry stomachs can only mean gruel.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:just buying enough food for the week on £53 would be difficult
without everything else
I have quoted the post in full again so I have read the post yet again just so Keith can read what he actually wrote.
Neil, you better take Keith with you next time and show him how to buy food for one on way less than £50 a week.

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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I can feed a man very well and nutritiously for £2 a day.
Anyone remember the bargain £5 'school dinners' we used to offer at Blakes? The average raw material cost was 70p a portion.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
kieth,no i dont support the idiots idea,in a manner of fact i detest the idea of the nasty party,to rape and pillage the poor,the disabled and the pensioners,allso the less well off are now in poverty as well.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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her majesty will have that smile wiped off her face when they hit her with the bedroom tax.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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This is not a pay rise. HMQ does not get pay. This is to cover the costs of running the great palaces and the costs of her duties.
Not a penny goes to her.
Neither is there any such thing as a bedroom tax.
You really should not take any notice of left wing organisations like the Guardian and BBC they have no more sense than their Labour friends.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
barry,bedroom/spare room tax same differance,they are one of the same.what ever you makes no differance.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
Ok so the current independent estimate of a living wage (based on a 40 hour week is) £298 per week before tax and NI (
http://www.livingwage.org.uk/)
As for alternatives, how about in this time of austerity:
Reducing/closing corporation tax loopholes
Not cutting top rate tax (for now - longer term replace the current tax system with a proper flat rate system)
Not offering incentives to property speculators through the appallingly drafted "house buyers assistance scheme" (even Osborne admits it is unlikely to achieve its aims and will be open to abuse)
Not selling off the NHS to your friends in the corporate sector (all privatisation schemes have ended up delivering more expensive services - but of course it is the punter who pays so that is ok)
Capping private sector rents for "social tenants" to reduce the amount of housing benefit paid out
It is worth reminding people that the majority of the benefits bill (excluding state pensions) is actually paid to people in work through the form of working tax credits, housing benefit, child allowances, council tax benefit etc.
No one denies that there is the need for some form of reform of the benefits system, but it is not the "pig trough of plenty" that the tabloid press paint it as. We do need to consider caps on total benefits paid to any individual, limits on eligibility periods for things like JSA & ESA, but these need to be exercised with care to ensure we do not drive more people into poverty. At the same time we need to encourage job creation through entrepreneurship etc.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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barry
please do not patronise me, i can assure you have my own mind evidenced by the links to all media that i put up here.
you sometimes forget(along with your opponents) that the rest of us look in and cringe at the antics of the main parties and refuse to be taken in by out of date dogma.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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is there a fixed penalty fine for out of date dogma howard.

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i wish there was brian in much the same way as irresponsible dog owners that don't clear up after their dogs.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Is that a eupthanism Howard?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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more of a pavement statement lesley but can be construed differently by enquiring minds.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Barry, the queen is in receipt of benefits abounding, plus subsidies from the EU. As too her extended family.
There is no exception to the Law, and the spare bedroom tax should be applied to her et al.
Indeed, you are right, it is not (only) a bedroom tax, but a spare room tax. The number of living and dining rooms should be counted too. If this tax does not apply to the benefit-sponging house of Windsor, then I'm afraid the Law will have been broken.