Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Is it not more reasonable to say that children should be given a good education and training Roger, rather than imply that it is for them to somehow engineer this for themselves.
Even if it were true that the vast majority, nay, the simple majority, of young people unemployed today had a history of skipping school could it be their, rather than we - the adult voting population, that were the architects of their miserable situation?
Arranging matters education has been a responsibility of Governments for about a hundred years or more and it is being done today in much the same way (or it will be again, if Gove gets his way) that it was these last forty years. Yet we 'knowingly' live in a world much purposefully altered and managed away from the manufacturing and industry of the past and still we (the adult. voting population) sit by watching and applauding the sole focus of all education and training being directed to the few A* exam-passing pupils that leaves the majority to rot, and apparently we, when time permits, blame them.
Oh well, while 'we' starve them into work that isn't there perhaps a burger or two will make it from the grill to the customer un-nibbled by the low-paid, zero-houred waifs and strays, but, certainly if they happen to vote Tory (or New Labour) themselves the failure of successive Governments shall be complete. Turkeys voting for Christmas.
Luckily Apprenticeships are on the up...for the shelves wont stack themselves.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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In an ideal World (good) teachers (and good parents) are there to nurture children, helping them grow and develop (physically and mentally) and be happy to want to learn more as they grow into and through, their teenage years.
Sadly, too many parents do not help or guide their children and peer pressure can and does lead young people astray and that's when the trouble - for them, starts.
Of those who do want to learn, too much emphasis was placed on going to University, instead of accepting that not all children are gifted academically, but many can do better by learning a trader or skill.
I agree that children can't do it all themselves, but some don't even seem to want to try.
Roger
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Roger, when they listen to Osborne speeches on Austerity, they probably give up at some point.
Or see their parents giving up, and others around them.
"Turn the lights out UK.com"
The damage inflicted by the Tory jokers in Government is becoming treasonous, they may have broken a number of constitutional laws.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Nonsense Alexander, that's just nonsense.
The aspiration for young children should come from their parents and where possible, the education system - teachers.
With no aspiration, there's no future.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
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Roger
You will be aware the argument/discussion is far wider than just blaming parents
society as a whole has a ,lot to answer for and until we change this, all the other pieces of the jigsaw wont come together
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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But it's a start Keith - parents and teachers, guiding and nurturing the young.
Roger
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Roger, food banks are on the increase in Britain, at an alarming rate.
This thread is all about Austerity measures, whether young adults can live off £53 a week.
It's related to unemployment. And that is connected to the economic situation.
This has all to do with politicians in government.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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And the mass influx of the labours party's cheep immigrant workers
isn't helping the indigenes uk youngsters get jobs
Brian Dixon
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but they do get there wheetabix in the morning.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Alexander - can't you see the link between unemployment and education (or the lack of ?) or doesn't it fit your argument ?
Roger
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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No, Roger, I can't see the link between Britain's unemployment problems and education, but rather the link between our unemployment problems and much worse ones in other EU-member countries.
The difference being only in the percentage of youth unemployment: UK 22%. Greece and Spain 60%,
It is all political, the politicians in government have failed the people, and see Cyprus going bankrupt!
As Greece and Portugal and Ireland before them, and Spain!
All political!
And other countries in similar positions.
And why do so many Eastern Europeans seek work in Britain? Because their own countries have also failed to offer them employment.
The masses of people in Britain and Europe have been betrayed by politicians!
Politicians who have even meddled in how banks are run, deregulating them and spurring them on into bankruptcy through sheer madness!
See the recent renunciation of a knighthood of someone who got knighted by the Establishment while driving a bank into sheer financial ruin!
Politicians have failed, they have betrayed the People, and made their countries bankrupt, and given mass unemployment, throwing even hard-working people into private debt, and home-eviction.
It is treasonous!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Then there's no point in me trying to have an intelligent conversation with you.
You say "Politicians who have even meddled in how banks are run, deregulating them and spurring them on into bankruptcy through sheer madness ! "
And who do you think was responsible for that ?
Roger
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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If you read Gordon Brown's Mansion House speeches you'll see who was responsible.
If Alexander is saying useless politicians have caused the crisis he is 100% correct
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Brown contagion...?
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Eh?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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slow this morning david,havnt you had your wheetabix yet.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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This place can be like a paralel universe, half the time I have no idea what people are on about.
Jan Higgins
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Not to worry David, I get that feeling a lot of the time on here.
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Its the randomness of it Jan, Brown contagion, wheetabix, maybe I'm the nutter.
Thats the thing about being mad, you're the last one to find out
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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david its called schizophrenia,but the good thing about it your never alone.