howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i doubt that the reds stance on the port will affect how people vote, at the time of the referendum and later the rally in september 2013 it was a major talking point with townspeople but as time has gone on it is hardly discussed at all.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Brian #959.
I have my own ideas on the port but I do wonder why, considering the French and just about every other country owns most of our UK utility business, trading companies and even our banks etc. and that considering BarryW thinks this is all wonderful super competition, that is great for the UK.
So why is he against the French owning our Port?
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Actually I don't care who owns it GaryC -, as long as Dover town can finally benefit from the Port and stop its decline.
The point being communitisation via the People's Port is the best option of all and is the one with which Dover will most benefit.
Strange, that me, a free-market capitalist supporting community ownership, while socialists who spout off about their collectivist ideals support the dead hand of state ownership.
But then we can expect muddle headed thinking from people who support that failed poverty creating ideology of socialism.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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How can borrowing £4million which has to be paid back and the port of Dover only making around 50million per year and the repairs etc must come out of that to help the town, I love this town if I did not I would have like the rest of the family gone years ago.bUT TIME AFTER TIME I have said this along with others, you are living in a dream world but it will bust the port at this time is standing on its own feet that will go if you had your way thank God that will never happen.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Vic - there is no problem about borrowing at low rates for sound commercial and business reasons sums that are servicable. All successful businesses do just that and I have done so myself. Business are built that way.
Borrowing for current account spending (deficits) is wrong, borrowing more than you can afford to repay is wrong, borrowing for risky speculation is wrong. None of these apply to the People's Port. Such PPT bonds would be low risk investment grade, to use the jargon.
You are simply wrong on all points.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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,We will see who is right and who is wrong if I live that long ,but as the port will stay as it is no point in carrying on with this line of talk.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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hardly a week goes by without someone giving their viewpoint on the ownership of the port, this one has the touch of alex in it.
http://www.dover-express.co.uk/Lib-Dems-Hand-port-DDC-Good-idea/story-20457586-detail/story.htmlGuest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Yet another attempt to turn the port into a political football. Council control would be an unmitigated disaster.
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Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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I don't have enough knowledge of the port to have a well-enough informed opinion about what would be the best solution, but
this survey from 2000 of coastal local authorities had 30% of those who replied saying they were the responsible Harbour Authority under the relevant legislation, so it wouldn't be an unusual situation.
Keith Sansum1
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Would you want DCC to run it
im with peter G on this one
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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The Port of Dover is an international operation and vital to Uk Plc. Leave it's running to the professionals whoever they may be.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Not DDC then lol
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Certainly not.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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good
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i didn't read the article as the good lady wanting to hand the port over to ddc but wanting them overlooking the professionals that run it and any finance johnnies that get involved.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#975 - As do Thanet District Council with the
Port of Ramsgate - though given their recent history that might not be a good recommendation as to how to do it!
Interesting bit of history here from their website - "In 1820, King George IV embarked, with the Royal Squadron from Ramsgate on his way to Hanover. In appreciation of the hospitality he received, he decreed that Ramsgate harbour should have the right to add 'Royal' to it's name. This status as a Royal Harbour is unique in mainland Britain, today the town and Royal Harbour still capture the hearts and imaginations of all who visit."
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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good old howard
always to the rescue
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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DPPT has the backing of senior figures in all main political parties. On the Labour side, most notably Lord Glasman, Jon Cruddas and even Ed M himself. Local Labour figures who disagree with their lords and masters in party HQ are playing a risky game.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i read the other day that the head honchos at the reds do not see dover and deal as a target seat anymore therefore little in the way of resources will be thrown at it. if that is the case then gordon and company will not be bothered what they think.