Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#548 - "I know that it's possible to get hundreds of signatures in a couple of hours on a topic which is of interest and concern to the local people"
You can probably get hundred of signatures for any 'petition', but it depend what you tell people. facts or speculation.... !
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Keith Sansum1
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I think what should also be taken into account is that petitions are not viewed with much credibility these days
individual letters far better way.
Of course theres also the thing, will at this stage any kind of opposition to the general theme realy make any difference?
I think not, we have as i said gone way past that stage
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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agree there keith with individual letter writing having more sway than petitions.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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but also without doubt we are way past the opposition
whoever gets the go ahead is the stage we are at
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Paul S, if you're referring to the petition on the CGI planning proposals, the text with subsequent question was written at the top of each signature-sheet and was read by those who signed.
You are munching sour grapes.
If you thought there was undue procedure involved, you should have informed the competent authorities at the time.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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alexander
are you listerning???
does anyone else feel alexanders views will come to anything or in fact have any milage
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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No sour grapes, just suggestion someone that admitted that they don't want to read all the planning documentation that is available and said that "I have discovered that I am absolutely unaware of what is going on", isn't the best person to be campaigning to the public and running a petition
Are you going to be reading the additional 56 documents that are available and submitted this week?
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Brian Dixon
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sour grapes and speculation,the whole carboodle will go ahead and houses will be built etc.it's a foregone conclusion and the money is sorted,just needs a nod from panning.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, my original point here is that the Law has changed since early 2010, which was when the Public Consultation on the Dover Port privatisation bid started.
Meanwhile there is a law concerning the right to a local referendum on issues regarding a community.
This will have to be looked into if DfT make a decision that is clearly against the majority wishes of Dover.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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brian
hope this new dept on the council or govt get it right
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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But this is the wrong thread to 'discuss' the Heights,. so I would welcome views on the other thread on the contents of the 56 additional documents !
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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No mileage
No basis in fact
No nothing....
Keith you are 100% right about individual and personal letters (not photocopied or computer generated with the same wording). It has always been the case that petitions have rightly been viewed with suspicion by decisoon makers, many people will sign anything to get away. A letter takes thought and is taken much more seriously. One letter is worth 1000 signatures on a petition.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I wouldnt mind further views of people on alexander's chances of even slight progress
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Paul, to paraphrase texts like that has already led to a dispute when you asked me to amend an article on my blog.
I was and am fully aware that I do not want the CGI planning proposal going ahead, I am aware that many people do not want these new developments on our protected areas.
Subsequently I don't need to read hundreds or thousands of pages on it.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Can please get back to the port thread
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Indeed, Paul, perhaps the WH/Farthingloe discussion should be taken over to the appropriate thread.
Keith. the original topic is the one I've posted on. Having expressed my view, I'm not going to have it taken apart and dismantled. Should the time come for a legal challenge on a Port decision, there are appropriate offices to make it.
Each to their own view. Circular arguments here make no sense.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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at last
now about the port proposals,,,,,,,
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry to say it yet again but I told you so weeks ago.
Guest 688- Registered: 16 Jul 2009
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Surely,that is where D.H.B.should be ,at the table with all those that seek to speed the regeneration of the town
