Keith Sansum1
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howard;
i think having a saving of £50m must be a start?
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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£50m at what cost of jobs. ?
Is this across all four districts or each?
What diffierence will this make to council tax ?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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keith
you and reg are doing a good job at avoiding answering the main question.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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sure as i not around forum full time reg will give you a full answer if he knew what the question was
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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keith
the question posed in 60, 63 and 79.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Strange thread this one Howard - Reg spouts doom and gloom elsewhere, but here is proposing to sack thousands of people but not backing up the case.....
How about an answer in 2011 ?
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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2012 you mean Paul.
Roger
Brian Dixon
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or alternatly this century.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 63..65..68..72..75..76..82..86..
As it appears there is a reluctance to accept the priciples of``Economies of Scale``(throughout all Council expenditure items ) it will not be productive to continually answer ill-informed,superficial questions.
Best to wait for the result of our `legitimate` lobbying of the people who will make the decision.
We must beg to differ....please enjoy your photography.....Happy new year.
NB.Job losses will mainly be highly paid management teams of four Councils ( who quadruple the administration tasks )
when only one management team is required for an East Kent Council.
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Sorry Reg, that is rather insulting to say that mine and Howard's questions are ill-informed and superficial !!
We are asking a simple question - with your idea of getting rid of the management team how much will it affect the bottom line of our council tax ??
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i echo that, the question has been quite clear.
i resent my question being called ill informed and superficial.
I have no great knowlege of local political setups , but if the waste and inefficency that the use of Economy of Scale in the NHS ,was replicated but its introduction intp local councils taxes could only rise !
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Unfortunately more often than not it is the ill-informed decisions are the ones that are dangerous. Going forward without proper thought and research...
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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to be fair to reg
he has always been a great fan of a unitary council
we have all seen that we dont have a need for 3 councils and all the costs associated with them
even peter and I agree so must be something in it lol
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Surely be a 'fan' then it should be easy to answer a straight-forward question ??
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 89..90..95..Paul aka....all postings were yours only not Howards...........you really should read postings...........but in
answer to your question,yet again......£ 35 million saving ......just for starters.....much much more available......
...... but not on here
Howard.....resent ??..............none of the postings mentioned were yours..........if you wish a comment on
yours......everyone knows part of your remit is to be a ``wind-up merchant``......keep up the good work.....but don`t
always expect a reply from me.
Happy New Year to one and all.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 92.Sarah P...different scenario...we are taking away superfluous managers not putting them on.
Thats what the NHS reforms set out to do as well Reg , it didnt happen
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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That's right Sarah. They are the ones that implement the re-organisations. They tend just to shuffle around the titles & re-emerge in another guise.
Watch out for this occuring with these reforms. They are already working out new structures for themselves to slot into.
Watty
One of the biggest examples was the reintroduction of the Matron , all that happened was the managerial posts where renamed Matrons instead of Manager , the people , the role and the job stayed exactly the same, nothing changed , but the trusts could proudly proclaim that they had listened and The Matron was back , the reality was very diferent