ive got friends in police so i wouldnt mock them i know how hard they work, but pcso sightings should be increased
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the pcso in town and pier has the most difficult patch as it stretches so far geographically, if he/she ever did go up the heights people would ask why when most things happen at ground level.
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What happened to the heritage crime unit which was announced last year with much fanfare?
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Post #71 - yes, there is an organisation that does a lot with young men and women and motorbikes, Kent Youth Bikers. They run a programme called 'Full Throttle'
http://fullthrottleuk.co.uk/ . We have about 15 young people every week attend sessions in Eythorne and there are links within the group to where they can go and ride off road legally as well as training for them so that they are safe and legal when they are on road. The group also helps them to get licensed and the course takes them through the CBT.
The Numball Rally that they did in 2010, riding from Dover to Scotland up the East Coast and then back down the West Coast via Wales on 50cc bikes on all the back roads, camping out or staying in hostels was a great exercise, my son enjoyed it hugely. KYB has sessions at different venues throughout this area and regularly run Full Throttle courses for 15 year olds and up.
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It means catching people in the act Peter - as you know it is a huge site and there is only so much you can try and get on camera (if available)
There are quite a few updates on the ARCH initiative for which DDC is signed up
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/professional/advice/advice-by-topic/heritage-crime/arch/Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Thank you Neil, I shall have a gander at the group's site...
http://fullthrottleuk.co.uk/
P.S.
Alas, it is more of a web page than a web site. I don't know whether it's me or not, but there is no more under the above address than you have outlined yourself Neil.
This site will more of a feel for what it's all about...
http://www.full-throttle-notts.co.uk/Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Well, I think I have the idea now.
Full-throttle: A training provider.
Kent Youth Bikers: A 'church group' with a lot of church about it.
I do not doubt that full training is essential in passing the stringent motor-cycling test, and just like Driving Instructors in general, the people at "Full-Throttle" need to make a living and they are sure to have over-heads.
Neil, when you say you have 15 young people each week, are these young people that attend your church or 'street-kids' who maybe are looking to find 'the light'?
Are the links to off-road and legal riding widely known?
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Keith Sansum1
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There are loads of active youth organisations.
look at motorcross in St Radigunds very popular motor cycling
that works with agencies taking the worst element of the street and training them to take motor bikes apart, and put them together again.
then help to build the track/keep it tidy
and then using the bikes on the track that the youths help to build the track.
just one of many such organisations
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The 15 that come and meet at Eythorne are mostly non-church goers and generally not in a mood to be 'seeking the light'. Quite a few are, or have been, in trouble with the authorities.
Full throttle does not require church membership or an interest in religious things from those who attend, although some are inspired by the example provided by group leaders to take an interest that they would not otherwise have had.
The groups are mostly hosted by churches, but there is not necessarily as much church involved as you may think. Some places there is more emphasis on churchy things, some less. Taking bikes apart and rebuilding them, bike maintenance, etc. plays far more of a part in the weekly gatherings than anything else.
Funding for Full Throttle comes from a number of sources including the churches which host the groups.
One of our group leaders locally also gives time in the summer months to assist in running an off-road bike/cart summer camp and through coming along to the groups there are many other opportunities for legal off-roading/road riding that are higlighted.
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Thank you for expanding on all of this Neil.
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Just seen that the notts.co.uk one charges full prices. The one that we do here asks for just £25-30 pounds from the young person and provides a bike, on loan, if necessary to get the young people through their CBT. Also, there are no 'per hour' charges that I am aware of.
I don't know who did the local website, there are more details available from that webpage, but black lettering on a black background does not really work very well. You can pick up more details from the web page by putting the cursor over the top left hand corner of the 'h' in 'Youth work in motion' at the top of the page.
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I'm sorry to say that I've just heard that those kids who vandalised the lighting in the Grand-Shaft are going to get away with it, as hard-evidence that they did it, does not exist and they have all stuck to the same story and denied it.
Not sure what is happening on the second break-in where loads more kids/yobs were involved.
Trouble is when they get away with small-time crime, the next one is bigger, then bigger and so on. Nipped in the bud is what is necessary.
Roger
Jan Higgins
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I am not at all surprised nothing will happen but hope the scare from being caught does some good, sadly I doubt it.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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sounds like they know what they are doing and will just carry on now if they know they can get away with it.
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They should at least all receive a police caution.
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Here at least, is one place where singing from the one hymn sheet is seen as a bad thing, when elsewhere the failure so to do is most often used as a scourge.
Is it such a terrible thing that faced with, "you do not have to say anything, but if you do it may be taken down and used against you..." is met by silence rather than "knickers"?
As with any 'verminous plague', it is hardly an ideal way to go about tackling such with a rolled-up newspaper or coal-shovel. Swatting for all one is worth.
If mice were the problem would it not always be best to secure the scraps that attract them? To shore-up the access and to 'allow' the mice the freedom of the open field, to frolic and enjoy their natural habitat to the full?
Have country dwellers down the ages not known that harvest time drives such creatures of the wild into the built environment? (Whether it be mice or fleas.)
Such wisdom, I am sure, abounds. One learns such at ones mother's knee, but children....Punishment! Prison! The scourge! The life-long blight of Criminal Record!
As if mice and fleas are a force of nature to be endured, but children...not so much?
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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You are sounding like Thersites again, Tom.....
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Ahem, Peter - Tom has never sounded coarse or vulgar to me. However, the ablity to challenge, rail and name-call does chime!!!!
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Name call??? Say it aint so!
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
In the nicest possible way, Tom!!!!
