Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Closets plus........... appear to be increasingly ugly...............
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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too obtuse for me reg.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Closets looking increasingly ugly ... the night of the long daggers...
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Howard, Reg always refers to me as a 'closet blue' in spite of the fact I once stood as an official blue candidate for DDC elections - I was beaten by Ken Tranter before he changed colour
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I read it he's now including Paul in the closet club with me because we have both joined Barry in trying to get Alexander to understand basic economic facts.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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all very confusing what with blue peter and technicolour ken, where will it all end i ask myself?
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Ray!
Barry hasn't managed to convince the Tory Party that spending cuts should be deeper and faster, so I'm not the only one who can't see his point.
Paul said that the Government wouldn't listen to a decorator in Dover, but I thought the House of Commons was supposed to be as it says: the House of common people: which includes farmhands, basket-weavers and cobblers. So why not a decorator's point of view too?
By the way, Ray, what were you trying to explain to me?
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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My point Alexander is that they won't be looking at the Dover Forum on how to run the country !!
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Or taking any notice of Alexander anyway. Specially as what he advocates is illegal and immoral.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Therefore the DF Bullingdon Club can let him be..........
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Don't worry Reg - thankfully they will not be taking a blind bit of notice of you either.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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Sorry, Barry, I've been on holiday so missed out on the argument on this thread.
In my facetious little way, I was implying that the original post was claptrap - the economy, real or imaginary, is nowhere near being fixed or even on the mend and for you to say differently is just plain wrong. Don't point at factors you've listed and put any party spin on it - look at the real people in your home town for whom economic pointers mean nothing, but merely surviving from week to week is the key part of their lives.
I see that credit card debt has plummeted over the past 12 months and I hope that this means people have become wise to how credit can easily wipe you out unless you're in control of it; I likewise hope that this means people are clearing, as best they can, what they owe in the realisation that their money will work better for them if they don't have stump up huge interest payments. All of which leads me to widen the playing field to Europe - if the EU think, for one minute, that the answer to Greece's problems lies in them being able to borrow more and more money and having more and more time to pay it back, then they're seriously flawed in their thinking and no matter how much playing up our economy is played up, the inevitable iceberg that RMS Euro is headed for will take us all down with it. The trouble is that I think too many people realise that to be taken in by any pretences that all is well. It most certainly isn't.
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Andy - I do not put any kind of party spin on economic matters. I am daily involved in economic matters and statistics. In fact I was ahead of party politicians in identifying a wide range of issues that I specified and providing good news. John Major spoke about this same theme later.
The simple fact is that there are a lot of very encouraging positive signs in the economy where they matter. Yes, it is fragile, I said so and have also said more needs to be done to boost business. Yes, there are other negative signals too, that is always a feature of any economy in a recovery phase.
You cannot deny the facts I provided.
Confidence is a vital ingredient to a recovery and there are too many people talking down the economy all the time. We need therefore to shout the good news too. This, of course, does not suit the deficit deniers and those who think government has all the answers when it is less government we need.
You and I agree on the EU though we disagree on tactics to get us out of that madhouse.
Brian Dixon
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mish mash fudge bucket politics,spun stats to make goverment look good.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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vince cable reckons we are very deep in it, he should know being the business secretary.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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actuly its that deep,its on the seabed next to the titanic.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Why is `someone` still moving the deck chairs then ?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Manufacturing GDP growth figures in a prolonged double-dip recession is just about scraping the barrel.
The spoof didn't come from the Government, but from an unnamed group of "businessmen".
But it makes one wonder.
If they start revamping the GDP growth figures all the way back to May 2010, then we might see the rewriting of history.
The next thing would be to rewrite the opinion polls. There must be a spin to it.
Anyone see numbers whizzing round their room? This retouch of figures to erm "fix" the economy is the latest version of another G. Osborne QE double quick money-printing plaster job.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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reg,tidal movements and underlying currents.