Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The substantive points Tom regard the impact of not cutting public spending with an ever increasing deficit and debt.
High interest rates will kill jobs in the wealth creating private sector where we need growth. Remember ultimately the public sector depends entirely on the private sector for it funds.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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interesting link from tom there, i don't have a problem of private firms getting involved in local g.p. surgeries if it means they carry out a lot more services that previously needed a trip to the hospital.
my g.p sets aside each wednesday to carry out minor surgical procedures, a good thing all round.
currently someone living in dover needs to book a days annual leave to keep an appointment at a hospital.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Is credit yet to be given to what the Marx Bros. used to call "Sanity-Clause"?
Is the public certain-sure to see it's 'purse' lessen it's outlay on health and see an improvement in outcomes by the sheer dint of the profit motive?
The idea of minor surgery being done by GPs came before talk of Private Sector involvement, certainly way before the 'i's and 't's of any contract had been dotted and crossed.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Just to repeat the indicators of economic recovery as identified by Lord Bates - with a couple more for good measure. This is a direct copy from his article.
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Employment levels in the private sector are now at all-time record levels. There have been over 1 million new private sector jobs created since the 2010 General Election, more than replacing the 489,000 jobs lost in the public sector. Unemployment has fallen for the fifth successive month in a row.
Industrial output rose by 2.9% in June—its fastest rise for twenty-five years.
Manufacturing output rose by 3.3% in June—its fastest rise for ten years.
Business start-ups in 2011 were the highest for decades: There were 471,466 new private sector businesses started last year compared to 16,621 business insolvencies.
Exports from the UK reached £39.2 billion in June, 2012 close to all-time record levels—the record level being set in November, 2011.
Key market exports China exports are up 74% in the past year; exports to India up 94%; exports to Russia up over 100%.
Domestic house prices rose for the first time since 2009 in July, up by 0.8% on the month.
UK balance of payments deficit narrowed from £4.3 billion in June to £1.5 billion in July confirming a trend which showed that between May and July the overall trade deficit of the UK narrowed from £10.5 billion to £8.6 billion over the previous three months.
Central government receipts increased by 3.6% in June over the same period in 2011.
Real incomes set to increase in 2013 according to the Centre for Economic & Business Research. Moreover, incomes will rise fastest for the lowest income earners (1.5%) and least for the highest earners (0.5%)
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He then goes on to say: ''That isn't a 'green shoot' it is more like an economic green field.''
I know that there are people who do not want to see recovery posting here and are eager to pounce on anything negative and it is important to put these Jonah's into perspective.
We need to talk up recovery, not talk it down.
Osborne needs also to capitalise on this and reinforce what is happening in the ways I have suggested previously and speed up recovery. Despite the good news we cannot afford complacency.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Time will tell..........trouble is time is not on our side when there is fiddling at the edges.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"We need to talk up recovery, not talk it down."
No, no. A thousand times no!
We do indeed need to recover, BUT we forget at our utter peril the FACT! that the ever-rosy view is EXACTLY what has brought us to our current sorry-pass.
'Jobs' gained verses 'jobs' lost is one instance of these old habits being hard to shake. That there will be a substantial mix of full-time and part-time jobs within these statistics may be of little account to you Barry, and the noble Baron Bates, but to the 'poor' sods, the actual living, eating, breathing and voting human beings behind the stark figures it is a whole other story.
That percentage gains are a very poor indicator of the actuality is also pointed-up in terms of the 'predicted' rises in wage levels:1.5% rise in the minimum wage rate would not come to £2/week, but 0.5% of about £250,000 may well end in a '2'.
Some, while not wishing to 'talk-down' any recovery are in no way non-plussed to talk down to their perspective voters...those that require votes that is.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Barry W, I have removed you from my facebook list of friends, and be assured, you will never come back on it either!
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Go the whole way Alex......take him off your Christmas Card list.....
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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To quote someone, Alexander, I forget who it was 'Am I bovvered?'
Reg - The fact that you regard the following as merely 'fiddling at the edges' says a lot about you:
Higher employment and lower unemployment
Manufacturing output figures and export figures
Industrial output
Business start-ups
House prices
Balance of payments
Government receipts
Family income prospects
All of that is fundamental to economic prospects and are essential indicators. You must be devastated to see so much good news.
Tom - 'yes, a thousand times yes', economic confidence is essential for recovery and must be talked up. This is of course from a low base. You might have a point if from a high base.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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87, Alex, I'm sure Barry will be gutted. I'll ring him later to make sure he's not considering suicide.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alex
you really know how to wound, barry will be blubbing into a handkerchief as we speak.
Keith Sansum1
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alexander
thankfully im not on face book so you cant remove me lol
barryw; toms post 79 says it all
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I'm more upset that I am not on the Facebook friends list to start with
Been nice knowing you :)
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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no better not to give the opportunity scotchie
lol
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 90.......don`t rush.......leave it a day or two............
Brian Dixon
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facebook suiside thats a new one,where can one get the pills from,one does wonder.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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reg is on form today, i bet the days when barry and reg crossed swords in the council chamber were never dull.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#92 - fully answered in #81 Keith - why not respond to that?
Howard - I was on DDC before Reg's time...
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I have understood Barry W.s comments and calumny to mean only one thing: that he is going to ruin my life, and all aspirations I have, and the only way he can do this is by having connections in high.
This clearly means that Barry W is indicating that someone in higher circles is going to go about cheating and persecuting me.
However, this will not work! I will know how to take legal counter-measures against any persons in higher circles - or any circles - who Barry W tries to influence in order to cheat me.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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oh dear, wibble
