Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#2
I suppose, when it comes to Conservative MPs, they are all on the edge of their seats.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#3
what seats tom,didnt they flog them off to pay for the countrys debts.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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#4
iv heard of 2 or 3 of them
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#5
Indeed - good luck Charlie.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#6
certainly seems to be a high flyer in westminster, let's hope he doesn't forget his campaigns for the hospital, housing in whitfield, peoples port and other dover and deal issues.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#7
good point howard
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#8
If the cons change there position on Europe they will fly in to number 10
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith B., the Cons are in 10 Downing Street for almost 2 years now.
But what they decide doesn't bother me anymore. I can only see them flying out!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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As for Mr. Elphicke's campaign for Dover's port, as one of the founders of the so called "Dover people's Port Trust", I hope he isn't thinking of overthrowing the official public consultation in which I took part and have official proof there-of from the Department for Transport.
The so-called "Dover People's Port" was possibly not even founded at the time of the public consultation! But I may have to check its founding date on the Web, to make sure of that.
I'm going to legally challenge Mr' Elphicke come what may if he thinks he can destroy democracy and public consultation, and that is a promise!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#11
Ah yes, found it!
"The Dover People's Port Trust Limited ("DPPT") was created as an industrial and provident society and registered on 23 August 2010 with number 31026R. It is also registered as a charity by HM Revenue & Customs with number XT28458."
Well my reply from the Department for Transport with regards to an official public consultation is dated 9 March 2010.
As said, I am prepared to legally challenge Mr. Elphicke in the courts!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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alexander
have to say i'm baffed as to what your on about
is it just me?
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#13
Alex, before mounting a legal challenge, I suggest you obtain copies of the Ports Act 1991, DPPT's constitution and the Public Bodies Act 2011, and settle down with a crate of cider for a good long read. Then you will have a good idea what you are talking about.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#14
I know what I am talking about, Peter.
At the time of the public consultation, there was no Dover People's Port Trust.
The local MP has politicised what was supposed to be a non political public consultation.
Using political connections to 10 Downing Street, and other party and parliamentary connections, what he has produced is essentially a Tory trust supported by Tory politicians.
It seems he decided to kick the public consultation to pieces.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#15
Total nonsense Alex
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#16
peter;
have to partly agree on the political slant that charlie created
but i have no problem with charlie lobbying his chums in downing street
but do think its a conservative charlie boy proposal rather than wider.
not sure what legal challenge could be made?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#17
when neil first came up with the idea he spoke to gwyn who was the honourable member at the time, then the election came up and nothing could be done.
then charlie was elected so neil took the proposal to him, so no party politics involved.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#18
Correct Howard.
It is essential to have pressure placed on the right areas of government and that is the job of the MP. What is more, as we have seen, he has been very astute over various legislative changes to help Dover's case.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#19
Recently, I have reminded the Department for Transport on several occasions that there was a public consultation process, supplying copy of my first reply from them in March 2010.
My opinion of the DPPT, which at the time of the public consultation did not exist, is that they are publicly implying there was no public consultation on Dover Harbour Board, but that there are only two options, either the DHB privatisation proposal or the DPPT proposal.
This is misleading, and their parish poll was also misleading to this effect.
I do firmly believe the local MP has tried to derail the public consultation through parliamentary connections on a political basis.
What is at stake here? The whole essence of Democracy as our State envisaged it at the time of the public consultation.
As far as I am concerned as a British citizen, DPPT, a non existing entity at the time of the consultation, created itself and then tried to throw me out of the public consultation, claiming to be the sole alternative to the DHB privatisation proposals.
This will have very far-reaching consequences if it is allowed to go ahead, as evidently an MP has tried to do in a democratic process through political interference.
In this regard, he also broke his electoral promise, which had been to campaign for Dover Harbour Board to remain a State asset.
In my representation, I recognised the local councils - DTC, DDC and KCC - as the legal representative institutions of our local community.
The local MP has publicly claimed that the DPPT is representative of Dover's Community.
He should not think that, by politically moving behind the scenes in Parliament, this will go unchallenged from a legal and constitutional point of view.
#20
Get a grip. The purpose of a politician is to use connections and lobby for their local electorate.