I know some pilots. Which do you prefer, Yanks or Serbs?
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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sid,niether the yanks cant be trusted to hit the right target,the serbs are a unknown entity.
vic,burlinton house has to come down sooner or later as its decaying from inside out.i rather see it come down sooner rather than later.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Brian .We all think that but it will not happen.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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It's not so much that it's an empty building, but that it has the same (Business-rate) classification as if it wasn't there and yet as some one else pointed out, the owners are receiving thousands of pounds from the masts without any expense (not paying business rates, or responsibility) whatsoever.
Even if it isn't knocked down in 5 minutes, surely it is right that the owners should pay Business Rates ? That's hardly a level playing field for local businesses is it ? and if they do end up paying business rates, it's less of an advantage to them, not to have it knocked down.
Sign up Vic - you know it makes sense; surely you can see it is unfair the owners do not pay business rates.
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
roger,trying to persuade vic to sign the petion is like banging your head against a brick wall,once hes set his mind on somthing he digs his heels in and wont budge.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Roger, Please read my post I have already said how I feel about Business rates and what needs to be done.we have to wait now till after the Election see who gets in before we again look at it.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I thought flexibility was part of the art of being a good MP Brian.
If Vic can see the unfairness of Burlingtion House owners receiving thousands of pounds in income without paying out anything, then he'll sign.
If he thinks it is right that the Burlingto House owners SHOULD receive all that money and not pay business-rates on it, then I will be very surprised.
Sign up and make them cough up.
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
roger,didnt think he was an mp yet,will have to wait untill after the election to find out who is an mp for dover.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Roger.I hate that building as much as the rest of you even more,and I will tell you why,I did try very hard years ago to stop it going up in the first place, I wrote letters to the press and the council of the day sayng it would be a blot on the landscape of Dover for years tocome and would also be a very bad land mark for our town because that is the only thing you will all see when coming down to the front or even just looking out of a window,but then I was a very lone voice and could not get any backing from the public,and what I said then has turn out again to be true,it got build with the backing of most at the time.Roger it has nothing to do with Flexibility but with timing you could go up to any election candidate and aske them to sigh and back you,and they would fall over backwards to do just that,and why just to get your vote,you know aswell as I do business rates can not be done overnight and the Goverment are the only ones that can do it, so as I said the timing is not right at this time, it is about who you vote in next time.I am not going to sigh or say things just to get votes I try to tell the true facts and in this case I have told you.
Unregistered User
Can't understand why he can take rent from the masts and HMRC don't consider that as income when deciding he should not pay UBR for the property.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
maybe they forgot to declare it paul?
that is the only reason there can be.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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It's as the wording on the petition says - it is uninhabitable, so is deemed to have been demolished; a demolished building cannot earn an income though can it ?
Maybe the VOA haved been duped ?
Roger
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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I've just had a call from a member of the press regarding this, I wasn't previously aware of it.
What happened to the petition Roger?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Yes he called me first, the petition was put up by me just before the last election but the No. 10 website was taken down. I suggested to Phil that he called you, David, knowing you have something of an opinion on the subject.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Arrrh you reveal your contacts do you Peter?
To be honest I don't see Burlington House as the issue, why can't we start building around it? The business rates situation seems odd but I won't pretend to know why they're not payable, it might be straightforward.
I've come to terms with the fact that nothing is going to happen under the current administration, though I must admit I'd love to know why.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Straightforward as it is an unoccupied building
http://www.2010.voa.gov.uk/rli/static/HelpPages/English/faqs/faq095-relief_for_empty_property.html
You will be exempt from paying business rates on empty property for three months after the property becomes vacant.
There are additional exemptions for certain types of property or for properties under a set rateable value:
Industrial premises, such as warehouses, are exempt for a further three months
Listed buildings are exempt until they become occupied again
Buildings with a rateable value under £2,200 are exempt until they become occupied again
Properties owned by charities are exempt if the property′s next use is likely to be wholly or mainly for charitable purposes
Community amateur sports club buildings are exempt if their next use is likely to be wholly or mainly for a sports club.
After the exemption period ends, you will be liable for the full business rate bill.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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David Little wrote:
I've come to terms with the fact that nothing is going to happen under the current administration, though I must admit I'd love to know why.
You'll probably find the "administration" is nothing to do with it, only the market will make anything change as they are the ones with the money and if they won't want to spend it if they don't want to. All the council (of any colour) can do is make it are viable as possible by owning land and giving outline planning etc
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Thanks Paul but
You will be exempt from paying business rates on empty property for three months after the property becomes vacant.
After the exemption period ends, you will be liable for the full business rate bill.
Am I missing something?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
do the masts not count as occupancy because they are outside?
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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You'll probably find the "administration" is nothing to do with it, only the market will make anything change as they are the ones with the money and if they won't want to spend it if they don't want to. All the council (of any colour) can do is make it are viable as possible by owning land and giving outline planning etc[/QUOTE]
Thats the problem I have Paul, DDC has acquired the land ie spent taxpayers money, but nothing further has happened.
