Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Phone the council tell them aske for a case number and get back to you after they have taken some kind of action you might have to do this more than the one time but keep on to them
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Pierre Morgune wrote:
Much help in Calais waiting to do do this job but not allowed in.
Unfortunately it is mainly people like those you mention and the others who we have had to legally accept because of unwanted EU laws that cause all this rubbish. We have to suffer as these people seem determined to ignore all requests from DDC not to carry on creating these overflowing rubbish eyesores.
The only remedy as I see it is to provide official and regular extra bin collections from these troublesome properties in Folkestone Road.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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You could be right Mrs Higgins but it needs more action than that make them pay for clearing it up or face turfing them out that would stop it.Also make the owners pay easy done just stop the payment made to them.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the real issue is how many people are living in each dwelling against how many are supposed to live there.
my guess is anything up to ten times, with children living in an unsanitary conditions.
there is fraud waiting to be uncovered but nobody can be bothered to do anything about it.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Again it is down to the D.D.C. to go and find out what is going on.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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a few years ago there was a problem with multiple bags of rubbish dumped on the pavement outside 2 up 2 downs in clarendon place.
a few enquiries found that families a, b and c were given a house each - soon after b and c move in with a and they sublet the other two.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I agree Howard in many of those homes there must be more than an acceptable number of people (even if they are extended family) per flat simply going by the amount of rubbish generated.
There is a two bed flat near me that has two families living in it, I hasten to add they are no problem at all and I only give them as an example.
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Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Looks like a nice area for dining 'Al Fresco'
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I had a contract in Folkestone to do emergency callouts for a letting agency.
Its only when you get into them properties that you see the full extent of the overcrowding.
The landlords love it ,more people more cash
The fire risqué is very big, mostly overloading the mains ,or jumping the meter.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the problem is a lot worse in folkestone, with dover it is just the folkestone road as far as i know.
flats between the leas and sandgate road, flats down the derelict seafront, the black bull area and the houses in dover road just to name a few.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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all within 50 metres of my front gate.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I've been away for 5 weeks, so haven't been able to read or post on here.
Like Howard said, I have been on to DDC waste services and environmental health etc. for years and Peter Wallace has been on to them since being elected; like me, he has had meetings with various officers and departments; the rubbish gets collected and tenants advised (in their own language) of their responsibilities and what they can and cannot do.
A couple of days later, the rubbish is back and nothing has changed.
To my mind, as these people have been spoken to for so long and so many times (the tenants and the landlords) and haven't taken any notice at all, it must now be time for fines to be issued.
It is a disgrace for everyone, all users, businesses and residents of Folkestone Road, deserve better.
Also as Vic has said, we knew this would happen and advised the Planning department NOT to allow these tiny rabbit-hutch flat conversions to go ahead.
With all the hoped for investment and development in this area, it will need some serious cleaning up beforehand.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 days after all the rubbish was cleared, coincidentally a few hours after mr little announced he was visiting with the gentleman of the press - the build up has started.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there is more than this but the camera batteries died on me.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Is the D.D.C. trying to get rid of the great Dover Collage? looks that way when we all see what is going on around it,
Maybe they would like to see that also turned into one bedroom flats and even more rubbish that would bring.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Interesting piece in the express this week, Cllr Wallace has suggested a task force is set up.
That's right, set up a task force, or a focus group, or a think tank or a steering committee, anything but roll your sleeves up and keep the streets clean.
Serious question to DDC because I know you'll read this:
Why would the MP sign a petition asking for transparency?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We've had task forces, meetings and everything else you can think of and it's still there. It's not so much rolling sleeves up, but fining landlords for the rubbish; hitting them in their pocket will make sure that they will ensure their tenants behave properly as regards the rubbish.
The tenants know what they should do, as they have been told what is expected of them, but they move on and new tenants move in and so it goes on, but the landlords don't change that often.
Roger
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Admission of failure there roger.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I do like to see how some members write Roll up your sleeves and get to the work that needs to be done.
Well sir why do you not help doing it yourself ?
How many times do you walk by litter but do not pick it up? around the road you live in.
Do you keep the path clean outside where you work?
Doing is a lot harder then talking.
If you do all the that good you are just a few that do, but do you? post37
I do know for a fact Mr Walkden does what he can for his ward but he is not the council but just one Cllr.
If one day you get to be one I look forward to seeing what you do about it.
