Keith Sansum1
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Complex it is David, not sure on the TURN A BLIND EYE concept
It does need to be thought out as to what(if any) help should be given
but not only is it not stable there, a number of other countries are also watching developments and who does what
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Keith, will you politicians never learn - Iraq, Afghan, Libya, now Syria, it is NOTHING to do with us, Cameron is a fool.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Syria is the only deepwater port open and friendly to the Russians.
Russians supplied air defence will endanger all aircraft policing a no fly zone
British air men will be killed by these weapons.
Think back to when Blair and Clinton invaded Kosovo , the Russians response was to land and secured the air port ,A standoff developed that could of all gone wrong ,if not for the quick thinking of the British officers on the ground defusing tensions.
We do not need to get involved in this, its Arabs doing what Arabs do best ,mayhem
Brian Dixon
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a bit like the uk then.

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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all very much resounds of governments in the west knowing what is best for others, it will rebound badly on all of us if we get involved. too often we have decided who is wearing the black hat only to learn that both sides were.
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Arms for Syrian rebels won't fall into extremist hands, says William Hague
"Hague, speaking on the Today programme, insisted arms need not fall into the wrong hands. "We are currently sending equipment that saves lives and who are we sending that to? Well, we are sending it to those more moderate, more sensible elements of the opposition. Obviously, we're not sending it to extremist groups, to groups that we're very concerned about, that could become a terrorist threat."..."
"He warned that the civil war could spread into a wider conflagration across the Middle East, saying: "We shouldn't rule any option out because who knows how serious this crisis will become, how it will develop over the coming months, or indeed years. This has now been going on for nearly two and a half years, so we really shouldn't be in the business of ruling out any options and there are no palatable options."..."
"...so it's a classic dilemma."..."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/arms-syrian-rebels-william-hague Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1
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Lets watch these g8 meetings
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1
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to true howard
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy BBC World News...........................
How will Flashman sell this to his euro sceptics................
EU and US 'in biggest trade deal'
David Cameron: "We're talking about what could be the biggest bilateral trade deal in history"
UK Prime Minister David Cameron has announced plans for what could be "the biggest bilateral
trade deal in history" between the EU and the US.
He announced the start of formal negotiations on a trade deal worth hundreds of billions of pounds
, aimed at boosting exports and driving growth.
Mr Cameron said a successful agreement would have a greater impact than all other world trade
deals put together.
The talks were announced ahead of the G8 summit in Northern Ireland.
US President Barack Obama said the first round of negotiations would take place in Washington in
July. They aim to conclude by the end of 2014.
The French have already expressed misgivings about parts of the trade deal. They are worried that
if they cannot protect their film industry from Hollywood's dominance, their unique artistic culture will
be undermined.
After intense talks with other EU countries last week, it seems the French have persuaded the
negotiators to honour what they call a cultural exclusion.
That leaves the way open for other sectors to say they are also exceptional and should not be
included in the trade deal.
The French claim the Americans want to exclude financial services from the free trade negotiations.
The Americans have not acknowledged that publicly but it is a reminder that behind closed doors
the discussions might be very difficult.
Mr Obama said he was confident of reaching an agreement.
"There are going to be sensitivities on both sides... but if we can look beyond the narrow concerns to
stay focused on the big picture... I'm hopeful we can achieve [a deal]."
'Once in a generation'Mr Cameron said the deal could be worth £100bn to the EU economy, £80bn
to the US and £85bn to the rest of the world.
He said the pact could create two million jobs, and lead to more choice and lower prices in shops.
"This is a once-in-a-generation prize and we are determined to seize it," said Mr Cameron.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the u.s. don 't do deals that benefit anybody other than themselves, beware of them bearing gifts.
Keith Sansum1
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Try to look at the positives howard
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Boris considers EU exit as Tories push for vote
BORIS JOHNSON has raised the prospect of Britain leaving the European Union by ordering
advisers to draw up a balance sheet of the pros and cons of the effect on the City.
The mayor of London has given his chief economic adviser the task of sounding out key City figures
on the potential impact of withdrawal.
Gerard Lyons, a former bank economist, is to produce an economic and financial report focusing
on how London would fare if Britain's relationship with Brussels changed, looking at a number
of possibilities, including exit.
Brian Dixon
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reg,that would cost money,and there was me thinking that we are in a recession.with money being tight as well.
Keith Sansum1
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Maybe Boris looking for leadership votes
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Spending Review: Chancellor hints Tories would make further welfare cuts rather than increase
taxes after next election
While respected fiscal think tank criticises George Osborne's decision to continue the freeze
on council tax
The Conservatives would make further cuts in the welfare budget rather than increase taxes afte
r the 2015 general election, George Osborne has suggested.
The Chancellor sketched out another dividing line with Labour after experts warned that tax rises
and spending cuts would be needed to balance the nation's books in the two years after the election.
Senior Tories believe the party's manifesto will pledge several billions of pounds of benefits savings
to meet the new cap on the welfare budget announced in Mr Osborne's spending review on Wednesday.
Keith Sansum1
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If anyone watched question time last night, the usual good speaker Simon Hughes
was more embarrassing in trying to distance himself from the Tory YE T in support of all they do
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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The worm will turn.....................to late........................
Keith Sansum1
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Clock is ticking
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i don't think simon hughes which way to turn(no pun intended), he has always been ambitious and thinks he would have made a better job at deputy p.m. of the cobbled together coalition than cleggy.
the truth is that cleggy is probably the most effective leader of the 3 main parties by a country mile.