Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I've had quite a serious number of complaints about them, all want to recycle, but not with these "monsters".
Some elderly people can't even lift the lids - what do they do ? Some elderly people who are disabled or others with Altzeimers or similar, don't even appreciate the complexities of recycling.
If anyone needs help with taking their bins to the edge of their property, they can get help - assisted collection details are on the DDC website at:
http://www.dover.gov.uk/pdf/assisted-refuse-form.pdf
Roger
we have not at aycliffe and don't want them no were to put them
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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I must say I'm encouraged by this mutiny. Never in my wildest dream did I think that deluded ideas to save the planet, sorry introduce biodiversity and enable ordinary folk to do the right thing by recycling for Mother earth, would come face to face with the might of more sensible folk who are tired of being told how to run their lives in the smallest detail.
I thought I was being a little odd, a curmudgeon, for feeling unhappy about this state of affairs but how wrong I was.
What people may not know that this whole idea comes from brussels under the guise of what is officially called the renewable obligations certificate or ROC.
It's complicated but simple at the same time. Basically if we don't recycle and not do what we've done for generations with our rubbish then we get fined. So it's in the financial interest of councils up and down the country to erm, "encourage" us all to recycle. But this is recycling on a totally different level. It's totally bizarre. Alot of what actually gets recycled ends up in developing countries polluting their backyard rather than ours. Children are used to dismantle computers and other electronic gadgets and suffer from the heavy metals and other dangerous chemicals they ingest while that do that job for a pittance.
I suspect this whole operation will fail over the next few months.
I would really like to know the cost of this project.....
At the Dover Town Management meeting before this last one...where we were treated to lectures around tables....when this recycling plan, with all the boxes was annouced I felt they were barking mad.....the costs must be huge...and even a local firm was not asked to deliver these awful things...a Cornish firm was given the task..................
Someone asked the question whether this was a European dictate
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this was hotly denied....................shocking really.....
you could despair.......when in the next meeting you have local organisations begging for money
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Back when I was Tech Services chairman, the Director, Chief Engineer and I did a brainstorm session over the introduction of these types of bins. Went through all the pros and cons and how they would work in the hilly streets of Dover. We were unanimous in agreeing that it was the wrong thing to do and ruled it out. This is a crackpot idea.
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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The idea in principle is good. The bins, however, are far too big unless you live in a large household. The "one size fits all" approach is going to result in a lot of complaints as no consideration has been given to where people are supposed to store so many large bins.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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alan,you can put them around the back,you got room the same as i have.
charlie,the person in charge is a person called mr.h.e.m.eroyed.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Any thing is better than what we had,as I said in a post a few days ago,nothing could beat the old way of dustbins,but when the public stoped buying them went the way of black bags someing had to be done the streets were and still are in places left full of rubish lieing around after the birds have had go at them,kids would kick them around,binmen would not pick up the mess left behind them the public would over full them.So the bins are much better "Yes" they are I think to big, but still better,and the council will help where is a need,ie=OAP, or you home has no where to put them,give it time and it will sort itself out just like other towns and parishs,but the steets where there are bins look alot better and cleaner.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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Taken overall, it is a better system than before, and definitely better for the environment, and to make people aware of how much they are wasting and discarding cannot be bad.
They are maybe unsightly but in an age of more recycling, with environmental considerations and economy they are a necessary 'evil' if you want to call them that.
If it encourages folks to tidy up their rubbish and the streets are cleaner it can't be bad.
As Vic says, black bags on pavements had become a menace. Years ago the dustbin was emptied just as it was, but in those days folks didn't dump a lot of food in there.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Did you know that familys put about £600 per household,of food in the bin each year. thats alot of wast and cash.Landfill tax per ton per year is now standing at £43 making the cost of wast per ton to a landfill site is £80,I have tken from my notes of the last meeting with the D.D.C. Wast dept. at Deal Also did you know Waste recycling in the EU is 30% per household,and in the UK it is 40% so overall we are doing better then the EU. I think the D.D.C. are doing alot better then I had hope for and we should be thanking them for the work gone on behind the headlines.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,897
Some have complained on here about the size of their bins, we are still awaiting ours so I can not comment on that.
DDC could have saved money and provided two sizes with the smaller ones for smaller families if wanted. We have a plastic dustbin and it is usually less than 3/4 full with three adults in the house.
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Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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What happened to the good old 'Rag 'an Bone Man?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Good point Barry. The original recycler.
It would be far more effective tackling waste at the supply end - excessive packaging, having to buy pre-packed in minimum quantities instead of just what you need, deposits on glass bottles etc. That would be the most effective way to reduce waste.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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People who make jam are always glad of jam jars; honey producers need honey jars (not tops); people who keep chickens appreciate egg boxes....
Some charity shops take electrical goods, and there are organisations who can repair and put to reuse old furniture and wooden items.
Spare fabric to organisations who make things for charity, and schools can also use this.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I haven't got a new bin, I'm still using the old ones.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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electrical goods are taken bt the british heart foundation furniture shop in castle street/market square.
i believe they are the ony charity shop that takes them now due to safety reasons.
emmaus in archcliffe fort for funiture that can be restored and sold.
Guest 699- Registered: 3 Jun 2010
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barry w-s =============== we still have rag and bone men up our way collecting old fridges , bits of metal etc , but only difference is the horse seems to have disappeared these days !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
yep they sure have,they have gone under the bonnet.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,897
Howard, we take some furniture, we have a nice table and chairs in at the moment
. I think the Hospice Shop take electricals
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Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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What does one do with 1960s music reel-to-reel two track tapes? We have quite a few which Bob was given at some time tapes are I think 5 inches diameter.
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