Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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If anyone would like an electronic copy of the new Light Rail/Tram service plan for Folkestone please email me a request and I'll let you have one.
Here is a depiction of the latest innovation in tram technology negotiating the Folkestone Harbour Branch en route the harbour and new development. This service has an alternative route via Marine Parade to link with the Leas Lifts and the town centre.
The trams will return to Dover ...
Never give up...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i do admire your optimism richard but have serious doubts about your pragmatism, trams are for cities or very large towns with traffic problems.
other than canterbury such problems do not exist in east kent.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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got to think positive
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Not a question of optimism Howard -its the way the world is going.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Richard, it won't be under the present governing system.
The State needs people to use petrol in order to collect taxes on fuel. It accounts for a considerable amount of Treasury income.
For this reason the Government won't encourage a conversion to electric public transport.
The only way to find an alternative is by using a different payment method, so that incomes can enter Government Treasuries from traffic, but without depending on fuel consumption.
That way the State could encourage electric public transport, and also the use of rail to transport more freight.
I was on to this, Richard, in my representations to Gov, campaigning for vehicle tolls. It was - and is - the only basic principle to assure Treasury incomes from traffic without depending on fuel.
Add to that the rail link to the Docks.
So you might find one day in the future that someone will come up with the idea again, somewhere else in Britain, and so-by pave the way for a conversion from Treasury dependency on fuel consumption. Promoting transport of freight by rail and a tolling system to substitute fuel tax.
So one day when we have electric lorries too (one day it will happen), and no fuel tax can be levied, and the Treasury receives its alternative traffic income through tolling, you'll remember then how I was opposed in Dover.
It will simply come to fruition somewhere else in Britain first!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I reckon Scotland is the best place to try!
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Alexander D wrote:
I was on to this, Richard, in my representations to Gov, campaigning for vehicle tolls. It was - and is - the only basic principle to assure Treasury incomes from traffic without depending on fuel.
You like your word "campaigning" Alexander, but a lone "campaigner" with odd letters to the government are likely to achive zilch if you have no backing from anyone and just want to be a lone entity, I don't class this as campaigning...
Guest 744- Registered: 20 Mar 2012
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There is a park and ride tramway in Le Mans:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Mans_tramway
All my friends who have used it say it is excellent and very cheap with 30 stops including one called "Churchill".
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Guest 744- Registered: 20 Mar 2012
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No but I hope it will one day
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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clearly very successful with 40,000 daily rides, the city has a population of 150,000 though so the demand would be there.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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It can work in smaller population centres-take a look at this-no stone has been left unturned:-
http://www.theremembranceline.org.uk/Never give up...
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Something similar could work for Dover-with just a little imagination and planning.
Never give up...
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Paul, UK political parties haven't got a clue, and ministers have advisers who think for them.
They won't leave the fuel-based revenue system and are dependent on lobbyists from the fuel and energy sectors.
For all that one could agree with Richard, it will just be dreams for now.
I couldn't see the present DDC councillors launching an enhanced public transport policy either.
More likely a parking fee policy, dependent on more cars.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Alexander: If it wasn't for DDC Councillors lobbying, we wouldn't have the good bus system we have today, including the Heart, Diamond and the soon to be announced, Rapid Bus Transit.
We nearly didn't have a bus service around the Clarendons and Maxton because Stagecoach pulled out as it wasn't making enough money.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The Above is right even Temple Ewell get four in one hour that goes in one end of the parish comes out the other and they do not have one bus stop in Lower Rd,
Must say as a parish cllr there they are not happy having D/decker/Bus going along there at the same time one is coming the other way.and then we have cars and bus backing up.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i thought stagecoach wanted to carry on the 68 route but were outbid.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Yes we save the shelter by protecting it where it is. Moving it would be giving in to the Vandals. Deal with them and keep dealing with them ad infinitum if necessary.Never give up.
Never give up...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i admire your persistence richard but the previous protectors of the tram shelter have now been re-assigned to guard the muriels in townwall street.
our heritage is under attack all over dover.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Roger is correct if some of us councillors have worked hard to obtain the better bus service we have today .Vic there are stops in Lower Road Temple Ewell.One either side by Kearsney Abbey and one opposite the Fox.There are just a few Double deckers that are used .Mostly single deckers and today a smaller bus was on route . The school bus is a double decker as there are so many children using the bus .
