Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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27 November 2010
22:5082004I would like to make it clear..........I am standing for Labour and not the Indies...
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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27 November 2010
22:5782005When you vote, you will see my name next to the party I am in.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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27 November 2010
23:0082006Vic you have stood for some many parties,you need a rubber!
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
28 November 2010
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Keith Sansum1
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28 November 2010
12:5282076David h
I refer o post one on page one your opening remarks, which state clearly your alliance party(which i assume you have not yet lef to join the tories)
will not/does not support any alliance candidate in any elections other than Dover town council.
This i have never had a problem with, but he question was having esablished this the alliance stood a candidate in the Disric council elections.
Theres no spin here, just 2 simple questions that for some reason you refuse to answer;
1; did alliance party support the alliance candidate in the district elections?
2; Are you David going to stand for the tories in may.?
two very simple quesions
no spin
can see no problem with howards posting either
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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28 November 2010
13:1882083david
kindly explain where i have told lies or accused you of the same.
failing that an apology would be the order of the day.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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29 November 2010
18:4982316Howard
Do you not find all this frustrating?
two very simple questions remain unanswered, so we are none the wiser.
but I do find mr h latest outburst and personal comments hard to justify.
and to say you(we)have lied, when all we have done is ask questions is beyond belief.
if this is the face of the alliance no wonder they will remain in opposition.
I have to be honest and say chris precious a forumite and alliance cllr usually will be level headed, we wont always agree but at least he doesnt throw out insults.
maybe the alliance should look at putting chris forward to do its responses.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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29 November 2010
21:4482352keith
the people of dover will read this and make their own judgement at election time.
crude unsubstantiated insults tend to hurt the person that resorts to them.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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30 November 2010
17:5282460thats correct howard
sad though realy
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 November 2010
18:4382470alex
sounds like the politics of envy from you, tony blair earns his money by giving lectures, clearly he is respected all around the world hence the reason people pay him large fees.
don't forget when he was prime minister he earned nothing like as much as he would have earned doing his proper job.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 November 2010
18:4482471that post should have been on the nick clegg thread, don't know how i done that.
Brian Dixon
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30 November 2010
20:0382491howard,an oap moment.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 November 2010
20:1282493you could be right brian.
either that or the fact i have just spent half my winter fuel allowance down the "eight bells".
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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30 November 2010
20:1882498howard,thought you had better taste than the 8 bells could have walked round to the white hoarse via blakes.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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2 December 2010
12:4782801no reply to your posting on mr hannant then howard
as you say howard they will be judged at the ballot box
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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3 December 2010
18:1683100im very surprized the alliance didnt stand a candidate in district and county elections
and its clear now that davidh isnt going to reply to the 2 questions
so can only assume from that mr hannant will be standing as a tory next may
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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4 December 2010
21:0683251howard
you will note from the first page when david h did the original post the two questions wont be replied to.
As chris is our only other official alliance member/cllr maybe as hes been so silent also answer the two questions posed
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Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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5 December 2010
23:0383390Actually I do not post a lot, mainly because I am busy doing other things, on any threads.
To make it clear, David Lloyd stood for County as an Independent not an Alliance candidate. I stood for District as an Alliance candidate but not funded or supported by them as a body. There was a change in our rules a few years ago to allow this and as I am, so far, the only one to have followed this through David has probably forgotten it.
Yes we do have meetings, these are required under law as we are a registered party. This step was taken to avoid the confusion at elections caused by others standing as Independent (labour/tory/UKIP or ban-the-whale) candidates. Our rules are strict on Alliance members not being members of other political parties so you will not see Alliance members standing for other parties at any elections. The main point in the Alliance being a party is that, we hope, our name and logo will make it clear that Dover Alliance stands for keeping party politics out of local government. We firmly believe that once members are elected by their wards to represent them in council it is those elected members that should make the decisions, based on the best interests of their electorate and the town not in line with the political interests of their party.
I hope this makes it clear I'm now going back to a good book and a hot coffee.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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7 December 2010
16:3983594Chris
i knowthat john will have more to say, have to say had davidh said he had forgotten you stood for the alliance(and please chris you either was a candidate for the alliance or you wasnt.
not being financed by the party doesnt mean you wasnt aparty candidate
you cant get out of it that way.
the questin was of course that lovely lady who told me she no longer buys the express, stood for the tories in a district election, this goes against david h original post.
I dont know why the alliance party doesnt clearly state it is (even as indivuals) happy to stand on other councils for other political parties.
this of course takes away davids independent tag
but be honest about it
thats all i ask
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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7 December 2010
18:0183605Keith me old mate I think you have run this one to death. Your questions have been answered to my full satisfaction by both David and Chris so I suggest you just drop it otherwise you will start to look a bit like what used to be called the loony left.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
