Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#41
Sorry Howard, wrong.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#42
Ah, is it the past participle of bijou?
It sounds like it should be.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#43
Clearly I am object of scorn on account of my scientific convictions.
Science utterly refuses the idea that a species can evolve into another species.
Science-fiction is being taught in British schools.
Keith:
the Christian Faith is the official State Faith of Britain.
You are fighting an uphill battle, as Parliament cannot introduce laws that are contrary to the Constitution, unless the Constitution be first abolished.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#44
Lesley, I do not dismiss mono-cells, but state that they did not - and cannot - transform into human beings, or birds, or any other form of animal or insect, or into plants.
As for Jesus, he was born to a Jewish mother, and the colour of her skin would be that of the Jews.
Do you have any problem with this?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#45
The rest of your post, Lesley, is hard to interpret, as I've never claimed to be anything other than immeasurably subordinate to God and His infinite Intelligence.
Unlike you, I'm not trying to dismiss God and replace Creation with a science-fiction myth.
Brian Dixon
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#46
what ever alex.
Jan Higgins
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Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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#48
"Clearly I am object of scorn on account of my scientific convictions."
Yes
"Science utterly refuses the idea that a species can evolve into another species."
Funny that, since Darwin proved the evolution of the species scientifically.
"Science-fiction is being taught in British schools."
Utterly idiotic statement, do you actually have any children at school?
"the Christian Faith is the official State Faith of Britain." Actually, the Protestant church is our 'official' faith
"You are fighting an uphill battle, as Parliament cannot introduce laws that are contrary to the Constitution, unless the Constitution be first abolished."
As I have pointed out to you before, this country has no constitution set down in law and as thus, it cannot be abolished. Our rights and laws originated with the signing of the Magna Carta and have evolved ever since. There is no 'Bill of Rights' in this country.
If you are going to argue facts, might I suggest you check your facts carefully and construct a logical and reasoned argument that can be debated point by point.
If you believe there is one divine being, that is your prerogative, indeed, it is one shared by millions globally. Equally, those that don't believe in one divine being can enjoy their beliefs.
But don't come on here preaching please Alex, it is your brand of christianity that has caused religious persecution over thousands of years. Maintain your dignity, stay off the soapbox and accept that there are other views, otherwise it will all end in tears before bedtime.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#49
nice one paul.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#50
Paul, you claim there is no Constitution.
I assume you have never heard of the oath of coronation, then!
Darwin did not claim that one species can evolve into another ie ants into birds, cells into elephants.
That said, cells are not even a species.
The Christian Faith is the official British Faith.
There is nothing you can do to change this fact, Paul!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#51
alex,the religion you keep on about stems from the middle east [jesus],and the romans took over.its what we got today.270 different versions including islam,juddisiom,buddisam etc.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#53
alex
there is no written constitution and never has been, things evolve over time with new laws introduced and court decisions causing precedence.
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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#54
Alex, you continue to bark up the wrong tree. Trying to discuss issues with you is like pushing water up a hill, I don't know whether you are stupid, stubborn, or both, but I'll answer the ill-researched points you have raised this time.
"You have never heard of the oath of coronation"
That oath is undertaken by monarchs at coronation, but is not part of English Law, not being written into the statute books and therefore is not legally binding.
"Darwin did not claim that one species can evolve into another".
Actually he did - his five theories are:
i) Evolution: species come and go through time, while they exist they change.
ii) Common descent: organisms are descended from one, or several common ancestors and have diversified from this original stock
iii) Species multiply: the diversification of life involves populations of one species diverging until they become two separate species; this has probably occurred billions of times on earth!
iv) Gradualism: evolutionary change occurs through incremental small changes within populations; new species are not created suddenly.
v) Natural selection: evolutionary change occurs through variation between individuals; some variants give the individual an extra survival probability.
"The Christian Faith is the official British Faith" As Brian points out, there are many different branches of the christian faith. For 2000 years (give or take), England's faith was ruled by the Pope, under Catholiscm, until Henry VIII split from Rome, made himself "Defender of the Faith" and the Protestant faith took hold. For the next 250 years Catholics and Protestants persecuted each other (as they still tend to in Ireland) even though the Act of Toleration in 1689 established Protestantism as the dominant faith. That is why Protestantism is classed as the Church of England.
I do not wish to change anything Alex - my views are very personal and I won't be discussing them on a public forum. All I ask, for the benefit of the forum and out of respect for the people on here, is that you properly research your statements before ascending your soapbox.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#55
nicly put paul,gentle but firm.
Keith Sansum1
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#56
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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#57
#14 ... sounds like Spencer Tracy you mean!
Never give up...
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#58
Paul, somewhere a line has to be drawn.
The house of Windsor is considered the royal family.
The monarch is considered the head of State and the head of the Government, and head of the Armed Forces.
The oath of coronation must be binding, and I have the impression you are making some of your own laws up as you go along with your interpretations!
One of the conditions in the oath of coronation is this:
Will you to the utmost of your power maintain the Laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel?
Paul, please do some proper research on the Constitution!
You cannot just invent the laws as you go along.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#59
the invention of a constitution is like the gosple according to alex,
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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#60
Poor old Alex, to jusify his state of mind, he's missed out the last 371 years of our history. The notion of Divine Rule fell apart in 1642 when King Charles I went to war against the Parliamentary Forces.
So once more for the slow children at the back, the oath of Coronation is a ceremonial act, with no basis in law.
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