Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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bern,evan though i smoke [heavaly] i dont smoke around people when i am talking to them,but if i have a lighted fag i stop smoking it untill i have finished talking to that person if you know what i am saying.and i'm saying that all non-smokers are pit bulls but some are.
Keith Sansum1
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Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well that has to be a first
Bern, Keith, BarryW and me agreeing on one post!!
My message to all smokers is simple - if you want to kill yourself then that's your decision but please keep those dirty, smelly, coffin nails away from me (and everyone else who wants a healthy life).
It's the children I feel sorry for
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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bern,sent you an e-mail.
Thank you Brian - and I have replied!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#123, and me.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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bern,e-mail recived and understood.
Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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I am all for stopping the young from starting to smoke, I went into the Coop in River today the counter there has tobacco on full view. Now you can go to the coop in River any school morning and it has a good number of parents in there getting whatever, prior to dropping their children off at school. You can also go there in the evening and outside you will nearly always find a group of youngsters who are in and out of the shop. So there as in all small shops the tobacco is in full view.
I was also in Morrison's yesterday and while waiting for my wife a lady was at the tobacco counter with a little girl around 8 years old. The mother asked for cigarettes and the shutter covering the cigarettes was opened to get them and the cigarettes were then on full view to the youngster. The mother then got for her daughter (with the use of her shop receipts) some Disney Cards which you get on offer. Now had the mother got the cards first no doubt her daughter would have been looking at them and not the cigarettes that came into full view on purchase.
It is a typical British hair brain idea not thought through and implemented fully. If it is to help not smoking then it should be for all shops. The young unlikely to go to the large supermarkets for their cigarettes, they are on the other hand more likely to go to the small shops where they will not always be challenged about their age.
Attitudes do need to change about the young starting to smoke but it needs to start in the homes and at school. Go past the secondary schools and see how many children you see smoking outside the school gates and while they walk home. Do they get challenged by the teachers, I doubt it. In my school days we went behind the school shed and if you were caught then you certainly knew about it and even having a quick drag on the way home got you several detentions or the cane if caught. Mind you I have to say it still did not stop me smoking, I stopped much later in life. I know some school children stay on at school after 16 so can smoke but does that mean the school still have to stand by and allow it?
Raising the age to 18 to purchase and smoke cigarettes may have been a far better idea than that of pretending they are not there.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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exactly harry,another case of double standerds.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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harry
18 is the current legal age for purchasing tobacco products, was 16 until about 5 years ago.
Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry I missed you out Peter
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
Guest 739- Registered: 16 Jan 2012
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I remember trying out smoking when I was about 12 because someone I knew pinched a couple of cigarettes from their mum and we wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I didn't like it but when I was 17 tried it again as my friend smoked Sobranie cocktail cigarettes and I thought they looked nice. I still didn't like it so have never bothered since. I suppose my comment is that if your mum, dad or someone like that smokes then it's natural to be curious. My mum said, "if all your friends jumped off a cliff would you do it too just to see what it was like?" Peer pressure doesn't help matters and until kids stop thinking smoking is cool or the thing to do then no amount of non advertising is going to help.
I think we are all guinea pigs in the middle of an experiment for which they have forgotten to set up a control group!
The non-advertising does contribute to reducing its appeal, though. It's a long job to unpick all the subliminal as well as the overt advertising and brand placement that has gone on for decades. Just for profit.
Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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Thanks Howard I thought it was still 16, but I take it that it is still legal to smoke from 16?
The easiest thing I have done in life was to start smoking, one of the hardest was to stop smoking. The worst thing I ever did was to start my wife (then girl friend aged 15) to start and I still cannot get her to give up and we have now been married 44 years. She has tried several times but then goes back. I therefore agree with what stops people starting in the first place but I just cannot get my head round this half measure, but I suppose time will tell.
Guest 744- Registered: 20 Mar 2012
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I loathe smoking but don't care whether others partake as long as it doesn't affect me. If they all gave up the Chancellor would look to us all for more revenue. What I do object to are fag ash Lills and Bills at work who spend five minutes every hour on the hour puffing away whilst my boss is telling me WE have tons of work to get through. I am sometimes tempted to take a non-fag break every hour on the hour.
It does seem illogical that the larger shops have to keep their stock hidden away whilst others like my village shop have them on open display.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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carole,go for it girl.
Carole, I did exactly that in one of my jobs a few years ago. the guy I shared the office with (small room....) was forever popping out for a fag break and coming back stinking. I got fed up and took to accompanying him every time he went out. The guy in charge took a dim view of both of us slacking............the fag breaks reduced.........
