Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well.... on the table we have a major development proposal that has the potential to go very well, but could go badly if done wrong. There are a whole swathe of considerations from heritage, nature, jobs, sustainablity, economic developments, quality of live for existing residents, so it deserves full understanding no matter now much we do or don't like elements of it
There is a real potential personally or via WHPS that I may be need to comment/views to planning, members of the public, English Heritage, CPRE, etc, and even a possibility of going to some sort of appeal. As such, in order to give a balances and trustworthy view I will need to ensure that I digest and understand (the best I can) 100% of the information
Therefore there is no way I would want to be a puppet to someone else puppeteer with something as important as this....
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Farthingloe!
In fact, Mike. Is it possible to suggest that, by not building hundreds of houses in the Saxon valley of Farthingloe, we will be allowing for this Area of Outstanding British Beauty to "just deteriorate into wooded scrubland".
Where is the connection between Farthingloe and Western Heights? These are two distinct protected areas. The definition each of these areas officially has is one that states their protected nature! In this respect they are independent from each other, and DDC has no mandate to build houses at Farthingloe to "regenerate" Western Heights.
In fact, Roger and all the DDC Government have no mandate to build houses in either of these areas: they are not on the DDC core strategy, and no DDC councillor was elected on an election ticket to build settlements in these two protected landscapes.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yawn, old ground again !
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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A strategy is just an idea for the future, any council that doesn't consider seriously any new opportunity that comes along is a bad council in my book.....
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Brian Dixon
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alex,dreamland is closed and deralict,and waiting for a cpo.sorry.
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Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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DDC Land Allocation Plans are currently up for public consultation, one relevant document is here -
http://www.dover.gov.uk/pdf/LALP%20Consultation%20Version%20Appendix%203.pdf
As I understand the situation (explained to me by a senior DDC Planning Officer when I asked at a public forum) these simply highlight areas that the council have identified as suitable or desirable for development and where there is therefore a presumption that a planning application will be passed provided it meets all relevant planning regulation requirements.
A planning application outside these areas can be just as valid but has to be considered in more depth. No election mandate is required and a lack of one won't prevent an application being passed, that would be a ridiculous situation.
Keith Sansum1
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not easy to follow ray
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Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Apparently not - for some!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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sorry just tried to look at it via your link
sorry im a novice on a computer ray
and dont come up to your high standard
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Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Keith, try starting from here - if you can't read the douments your Acrobat reader might be out of date -
http://www.dover.gov.uk/regeneration_delivery/local_development_framework/land_allocations_local_plan.aspxKeith Sansum1- Location: london
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Ray
ta for that
made a start of the heavy reading lol
some iv read before
few points so far;
1; page 23 on the open spaces plan the council is saying 18 folkestone road(part of a plan)is in western heights
surely thats in priory?
2; westmount looks for a buyer after all these years
3; council now saying there own planning policies of the past and decision by cllrs wrong on the folkestone road
and are to change direction, having less smaller rooms agreed brightening up folkestone road, and looking to take enflorcement action against landlords who leave properties in neglect(this is to be seen) but welcome.
is it all nice words??
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Did you get the CD ok Keith ?
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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All I can say about this one is it looks like we are not going to see the kind of house I would like to see and what would be a good help to the town ,as I said we need to have some very good homes about £1million and above not many but Dovr needs them.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#52. ref. point 2
Westmount has a buyer ,who is the same owner of the old goods yard site where a car park application will come.
The Westmount site is at pre application stage. Expect a formal application soon.
Watty.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Vic, in theory DDC could give the go-ahead to some 10 King Street style buildings being erected in brown-field areas of Dover. If they did, I'd be happy to give my favourable comments on any such planning applications.
For example in the DTIZ area.
Currently, DDC is going about the whole area, from Guston to Whitfield and the Western Heights and areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty, with all sorts of city-formal proposals that many think are just the usual estate-type building that covers the most essential requirements to be called "a house".
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The only sites proposed on the Heights now are brown field:
Victoria Hall - fire damaged to be converted to accommodation
Site of the 'sheds'/hard standing on Citadel Road
Hotel on the site of the Married Quarters and associated buildings at Grand Shaft Barracks
So you are saying if CGI built some neo-Victorian buildings on these sites you will comment favourably ?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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what happened about the fantasia style glass lift originally ear-marked for the grand shaft?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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howard,some numpty droped it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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rather a pity brian, if it had been installed earlier this year the girls could have done their fund raising at the shaft without getting out of breath.
