Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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6 of these at orly and Charles de gual airports to transport them to a well known sand pit in north Africa.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Is it not time for compassion to take over and we take them in to save them from famine and drought caused by climate change?
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Human history is littered with mass migration events.
Domestic mismanagement in their countries, corruption, cronyism, wars, famines, changing climate and weather patterns are all contributing to the mass movement of people. Some is down to the western world, some is down to their own politicians and leaders, some is just bad luck...
We either figure out how to cope with it and to manage it or we might have to do the unthinkable...
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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You're right in what you say there Ross, but I've given this some serious thought and overall think that the "unthinkable" is probably the best option!
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Like with the Ship of Theseus one wonders how many non Europeans would have to be in Europe before it was no longer 'European'?
Meanwhile at Gay Pride in London today, for the first time, marchers are protected by armed police from the primitive peasants who believe the words of the 'prophet' Mohammed in the hadiths, that homosexuals should be thrown of tall buildings to their death!
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote: meanwhile at Gay Pride in London today, for the first time, marchers are protected by armed police from the primitive peasants who believe the words of the 'prophet' Mohammed in the hadiths, that homosexuals should be thrown of tall buildings to their death!
Surely they should be arrested for hate crimes?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/iman-fc-muslim-radio-station-sheffield-al-qaeda-anwar-al-awlaki-charlie-hebdo-hate-speech-jihadi-a7830256.htmlCaptain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Ha ha ha, Howard. It's all too late. Remember more people have been prosecuted for assault by bacon than FGM in the UK!
Do try to get hold of a copy of Douglas Murray's 'The Strange Death of Europe' which will go some way to explaining everything.
We have NEVER been a country of mass migration until the very recent past and the world has NEVER seen mass migration such as we are witnessing between continents in its history and it's only just beginning.
However I hope you are enjoying all the various cuisines (which we daily celebrate) it brings.
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'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Being a cynic where some politicians are concerned I wonder if the caption should read "But not in my road unless you are respectable and reasonably well off".
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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post#508 is a rather punative statement.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:We have NEVER been a country of mass migration until the very recent past...
Except for the, admittedly unimportant, migrations of Angles, Saxons and Jutes back in the day. Personally I think we should round-up all their descendants and send them back to North Germany and Scandinavia. After all, this should be possible with DNA testing. Then us true Britons could have our country back and take over their mansions.
Oh, and there's the small matter of the Puritan exodus...
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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WGS, don't talk rubbish. The figures you talk about made a minimal difference to the population.
A few thousand maximum joining a population of millions.
Even the Norman conquest did not lead to over a third in the capital being born abroad (ser 2011 census).
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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FWIW the greatest change in population came in 1681 when c.50,000 French Hugenot protestants were invited in to avoid persecution. Since the time of Blair we've had that number arriving every month!
The other untruth told is that they are good for the ecomomy. Even if they made a marginal improvement to GDP (which they don't) that does not take into account the strain on infrastructure including housing.
On the plus side our choice of cuisine has improved and 'bush meat' is for sale in Dalston market!
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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no such thing as a true brit,unless you come from north wales or cornwall
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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And I share 98% of my DNA with chimps, 70% with slugs and 50% with a banana Brian. Your point is?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon wrote:no such thing as a true brit,unless you come from north wales or cornwall
The yeopersons of Cornwal/Kernow may beg to differ Brian.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4677520/Cornish-terror-group-says-SUICIDE-attacker.htmlBrian Dixon- Location: Dover
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no such thing as a true brit bob,evan though we think we are.just because you where born and bred in England dosent make you british or English.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Our Governments have never handles large scale well, always content to keep employers supplied with workers with no consideration to the local population living in already poor areas. After the last war people came over from the West Indies to fill vacancies at London Transport, Fords and other big employers. They were not told that all night parties on a Saturday would upset the indigenous population and create tensions. Similarly when Bangla Desh people started to arrive in big numbers and were housed in blocks of flats in Poplar, Limehouse and Millwall they were not told how to dispose of rubbish through the shutes but simply opened the windows and threw it out. Now we have the Roma people - not much more I can add to that.
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Just Sioux- Location: Kent
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Captain Haddock wrote:And I share 98% of my DNA with chimps, 70% with slugs and 50% with a banana Brian. Your point is?
No wonder the UK bankers got in a mess if taught by a 'maths teacher' who thinks he's 218%.
(98%+70%+50%).
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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The population of Britain is estimated to have been around 1 - 1.25 million leading up to the A, S & J migration (down from around 4 - 5 million during the Roman occupation). The subsequent Viking invasions are estimated to have been between 4 - 8 % of the population, and to have been on a smaller scale. So even if the estimate is 5% of the population, this is statistically significant, and equal to about 3 million on today's population level. Hardly a 'minimal difference'. But its demographic significance was huge: it forced us true Britons to pack up our woad and look for jobs in the cold bits of the North and West.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus