Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yep,it stopped the jerrys in 1939/40 didn't it.. people with short memories.
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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Came through Calais from the east in the early hours and lo and behold a burning barrier across the motorway with many illegals waiting at the roadside stalking the stationary trucks. Let the fun begin once again.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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I fail to understand why the froggies seem to do bugger all about this continuous problem. Hasn't anybody told them for God's sake that if they kept these desirables in their own country then they will see a marked boost to their economy in addition to being able to fill umpteen important vacancies in their health sector.
I guess we are the lucky ones eh?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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The only real surprise is that it hasn't happened before.
Somebody's son and perhaps father or brother wiped out , completely due to the ineptitude of the French government that should have dealt with this problem years ago.
Perhaps the locals wil hold a vigil, that'll help!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The problem is two fold, firstly the French Channel ports are so far away from Paris and other major cities that the French public other than near Dunkirk and Calais are not really interested so no pressure on the Government. Secondly I read what must be about a decade ago that with the endless stream of day trippers doing booze cruises, then the middle classes from Southern England buying up cheaper properties and getting the benefits of better schools and hospitals that the Nord Pas De Calais was sneeringly known as Little England
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:The problem is two fold, firstly the French Channel ports are so far away from Paris and other major cities that the French public other than near Dunkirk and Calais are not really interested so no pressure on the Government. Secondly I read what must be about a decade ago that with the endless stream of day trippers doing booze cruises, then the middle classes from Southern England buying up cheaper properties and getting the benefits of better schools and hospitals that the Nord Pas De Calais was sneeringly known as Little England
Also the Channel ports are significantly less important to France than they are to the UK. The majority of French exports and imports goes via the German, Italian and Belgium borders.
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Jack of Hearts
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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Came past the scene of this tragedy in the early hours of yesterday and the potential immigrants were still to be seen every where. This was the fourth tragedy involving a Polish driver I had seen in 24 hours, all involving the death of the driver. The other 3 were in the space of an hour on the road between Poland and Hanover and driver tiredness was possibly a contributory factor.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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From the Telegraph
Fresh concerns have been raised about Europe’s ability to protect its frontier after a Telegraph investigation found asylum seekers are managing to enter the Schengen zone undetected and fly on fake ID cards.Syrian, Iraqi and other nationals are walking across Turkey’s land border with Greece, where they are buying fraudulent documents which have been accepted on commercial flights to western Europe. By doing so they are getting around a deal the European Union agreed with Turkey to take back all refugees and migrants arriving on Greek shores.
The Telegraph spoke to three Syrians who made it to the Netherlands this way this year, as well as an Iraqi citizen who reached Belgium. However, Europol, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, admitted the problem was much wider.
The shocking ease with which they made the journey raises serious questions about the EU’s ability to protect its external perimeter, particularly at a time when Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) is looking for ways to send fighters to attack European cities. One Syrian man in his 30s, who wished to use only his first name, Ahmed, told how he paid €1,000 (£880) to a smuggler in Istanbul to help him reach Greece.
“If you have the money, there is a luxury way,” Ahmed said. “We travelled by car from Istanbul to Edirne (in northwest Turkey), then we walked for an hour to the river (Meriç), and from there we got a boat which just took two minutes.” He crossed illegally into Greece, negotiating his way around guards at one of the world’s busiest border gates with the help of the smuggler.
He took a taxi and then a coach to Athens. Once in Athens, Ahmed paid another smuggler €6,000 for a fake Greek ID card. The card bore his photograph but the name of a real Greek citizen. With it he managed to buy a plane ticket to Amsterdam. Under the Schengen Agreement, people are able to travel around EU member states without showing a passport.
During the height of the migrant crisis in the summer of 2015, Greek authorities reported finding up to 200 forged passports and IDs a day at Athens airport. However, the trade was thought to have tailed off after the EU and Turkey signed a deal which saw Ankara stop asylum seekers from crossing by sea to the Greek islands in return for €3 billion in aid.
The agreement all-but halted the perilous journeys made across the Mediterranean from Turkish ports, but alternate routes have since opened up for those able to afford it. The land border crossing into Greece is an expensive option as the risk is high, and smugglers can charge several thousand euros for a fraudulent document.
Ahmed claimed few checks were carried out at the airport in Athens and he was able to board the plane with little questioning.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Looks like the taxi service for wet africans is almost picking them up from the beach this year!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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At last the EU are holding crisis talks but only because Italy is saying enough is enough. Could they be diverted to a French port?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/eu-crisis-refugee-migrant-italy-block-rescue-boats-paris-summit-a7819656.htmlCaptain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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We have seen nothing yet in terms of numbers or the inevitable result.
I note with despair how we are all totally outraged over some accidental though avoidable fire deaths, but seem to have forgotten about Manchester and London terrorist attacks.
Far to difficult to even think about. Much easier to blame councillors for not having a spare 200 homes. Perhaps they'll go back to killing cartoonists who probably deserved it?
Dream on.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:Perhaps they'll go back to killing cartoonists who probably deserved it?
Really?
As someone once famous famously once asked, 'Why do people write and believe this sort of nonsense?'
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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We really do need an emoticon for sarcasm.
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:We really do need an emoticon for sarcasm.
That's the easy way out. You're no Swift.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:That's the easy way out. You're no Swift.
well that's hard to swallow.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Yet that was what the idiots were saying, to be replaced with it's all due to our various adventures in the Middle East (and obviously NOTHING to do with Islam)
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Our masters in the European Parliament finally think there could be problems ahead with immigration from Africa.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/07/millions-africans-will-flood-europe-unless-acts-now-warns-european/Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'