Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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People in England won't believe that the house of Windsor is the head of the English Church.
Mrs. Windsor gets her title from Henry VIII, but King Ethelbert of Kent lived 1,000 years earlier, and founded the English Church in Canterbury.
My Church is that of the Fair Lady Britannia at the Castle.
It shows the road to the Foundations of Christ's Church.
I see the Fair Lady's Church every day, and pass the Foundations of Christ's Church every day.
I shall not forfeit my soul. I shall not recognise the house of Windsor as my head nor pay allegiance to them.
Even if you knocked down Christ's Church, it will be rebuilt!
The Church shall prevail, forever!
The Truth cannot be hidden, the Church cannot be knocked down, and I shall never surrender!
Keith Sansum1
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Shall I try again Alexander?
The beacon church is closing because the christians decided they wanted to close it.
now, if we move on to religion in general, anyone can practice/be part of/enjoy/promote
Christianity and although some others don't wish to go this route, Iv not noticed any poster saying you should mann the barricades, in fact posters have said that is your right
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Brian Dixon
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kieth don't bother,i am sure he is winding you up.
best left to stew in his gravy,if you savvy.
Terry Nunn
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Surely the point is that they have an excellent church hall for the services that is more economic to run. So why not use it?
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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And that's the point
and the shop around the corner
church is no longer required the Christian leaders said
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I shall simply ignore Brian's very unfriendly posts, on this and on all threads.
It is pointless posting at all here on this Forum.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Your view of history differs from mine, Alex. St Augustine brought the Roman Church to Kent and Queen Ethelburga nagged the king to build her a church. A thousand years later Henry VIII chucked out the Roman Church and founded the Church of England in its place.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Getting heavy,
Istick by the original post
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Firstly, I do not have to take Brian Dixon's insults against my Christian Faith, of which I am getting fed-up, and would ask him to stop posting silly cracks and insulting remarks against my Faith.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Peter, Princess Bertha came as a Christian to Kent marrying Prince Ethelbert. Her father was a Frankish king.
Prince Ethelbert later succeeded his father King Eormenric and became King of Kent, and his Consort converted him to the Faith.
Not Augustine.
Augustine came later, because the pope had sent him to Kent which already had a Christian Monarch (King Ethelbert), with the mission to establish a bishop's seat in London and one in York (therefore not Canterbury), and to impose papal supremacy over the Celtic Churches in Cornwall, Wales and Scotland.
Augustine failed in all his missions, as the Celtic bishops refused to buckle down to his arrogance (see the Venerable Bede), and because neither the Anglo-Saxons of London nor those of York would convert to Augustine's catholicism.
They remained pagans.
King Ethelbert was already Christian, and had already established the English Church in Canterbury, where he had dedicated a preexisting Celtic church to St. Martin of Tours for his Consort Queen Bertha to practice her Christian Faith.
King Ethelbert simply allowed Augustine to remain in Canterbury and to be bishop there, as he had nowhere else to go.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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It could also be that the church in Canterbury had already been dedicated to St. Martin of Tours by the Britons, in which case King Ethelbert simply reestablished the building as a church.
Either way, this church of St. Martin in Canterbury is the first church used by the Anglo-Saxons-Jutes in England for the Christian Faith, and this was before Augustine's arrival in Kent.
The English Church, therefore, already existed before Augustine came.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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To get back to the thread title
The Christians decision to close the Beacon church through falling numbers, and have alternatives appears a sound decision
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,how Christian you are,thanks for the compliment.
now getting back to the thread,it would be nice to see a mosque in town,just to keep people happy.
Jan Higgins
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Brian, I would have no problems with a mosque so long as the fanatics are not involved with it, sadly the fanatics of any religion all to often like to stir up trouble.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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That's true jan
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yes jan a good point.there is good and bad in all religions.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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no chance of a mosque being built in east kent, there simply isn't the footfall of muslims to warrant it.
regular worshippers tend to live in places close to mosques.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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You are mistake Howard.
Saudi Arabia is paying for the building of Islamic centers and mosques all over Europe
First comes the buildings then the people,
Theirs already one in Gillingham east Kent.
http://www.tijarapages.com/categories.asp?cid=20&id=105howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the medway towns have a much higher population of religious people keith, dover doesn't.
i was surprised when people believed the rumour that a mosque was coming to belgrave road, especially as it was me that started the rumour.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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This thread was addressed to me in post 1, I've answered Keith's point manifestly by stating that the District Council should not sign a sheet of paper sanctioning the conversion of a church into residential housing or anything else.
This will remain my view no matter how often Keith rams me trying to force a "conversion" from me.
As for the later posts, there was an intelligent ongoing discussion between Peter and me on the foundations of the English Church.
