Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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While I would dearly love to 'bagsie' the title of "Prima Donna", I do not wish to pre-empt the Democratic process.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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good of you to come on and hurl insults at as all peter, will hardly raise the profile of ukip in dover.
many times attempts have been made on here to start a serious debate with your party and they always hit a dead end.
questions need to be asked as to why your party swept the board all around us except in dover and deal last may.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I agree with the above post,and Mr Ripley you need to look at your 2013 membership list which was send to you a few weeks ago and you will see that I am a paid up member of UKIP for along time yet, and you have gone round the right way to get the funds I still hold and to get voters (I do not think) but please carry on the way you are all the other partys will love it.Or come round and talk to me this is the very last time I am going to tell you that. Ranting on like you are doing will not do you or our party anygood.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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such a desperate posting from mr ripley,and you wonder why people take the micky.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thats the word I was looking for Mr Dixon just about sums it up.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Peter Ripley wrote:Mr Matcham, I do not need advice from a ego tripping,bunker dwelling ex member of UKIP...At the moment,we are signing up 2 new members a week..Nigel Farages' visit to Dover and Deal was a major success..Howard Mcsweeney noted at the time,that supporters and members met Nigel.....Mr Hansell, I see you are still doing your anti British, anti UKIP rants.. No mention of the Ex BNP Labour Councillor in Northampton...It is a waste of time trying to debate with Prima Donnas and Brain washed Dinosauers , who lurk on this forum.
Goodbye then!
Audere est facere.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I like that Mr Martin hit the nail on the head.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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thought you had given up martin, not seen you post for ages.
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Not given up Howard have nothing to offer on most threads.
Audere est facere.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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UKIP must be doing well in Dover, as DPPT have been courting Nigel Farage.
They must have had knowledge that the Conservatives are not going to do so well.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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nice try at mud slinging alex, there was one member of the person's port at that meeting as you well know and he had received an invitation to attend.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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All Mr Farage has done is jump ship,when I was chairman I had his and the party support to keep the Port of Dover within the royal charter he is thinking by doing what he has done now it will get the party more votes in Dover but that will not happen.And the rant we had today from them will cost them about 200votes or more,but I have a feeling by the time of the next Gen/Election UKIP IN Dover will not be the same as it is now some of their committee and members will be gone.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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A constitution is a text which contains the fundamental rules of the group of states.
In actual fact, the European Constitution replaces the main treaties with a single text.
But why?
It is designed to meet the challenges of an enlarged Europe, 25 member states and around 450,000,000 inhabitants.
It must be a democratic, transparent, efficient Europe working to serve all Europeans.
But my country already has a constitution?
The European constitution does not replace the national constitutions of the countries of Europe. It will co-exist with these constitutions and will have its own justification and its own autonomy. The European Constitution defines the contexts within which the European Union is able to act.
What is in the constitution
The European Constitution is divided into four parts:
Part 1; Defines values, objectives, powers, decision making procedures and institutions of the European Parliament.
Part 2; Contains of the charter of the fundamental rights.
Part 3; Describes the policies, internal and external action and functioning of the European Union.
Part 4; includes the procedures for adopting and revising the constitution.
What can the consitution do for me?
The guarantee of respect for a certain common values and a European model of society.
Respect for human dignity, liberty, democracy, equality, the rule of law and human rights.
Equal rights for man and woman.
Free movement of persons, goods, services and capital, freedom of establishment, no discrimination for nationality.
Every national member of state shall be a citizen of the union.
If a member state is a victim of a natural and manmade disaster, the EU and member states shall act jointly to assist that state.
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WWII much of Europe was destroyed and bitter. The disastrous effects of the war made Europeans look towards cooperating with each other. Reconciliation between France and Germany was the key stage to a new and improved Europe.
Steel industry needed to be rebuilt, so Robert Schuman first proposed the idea of a United Europe by achieving in stages practical goals.
Robert Schuman
On may the 9th 1950 Frances foreign minister Schumann suggested practical cooperation within the coal and oil industry so they could rebuild Europe. The Schuman declaration was drafted by Jean Monnet, one of the EU founders. As Schuman said: "Europe will not be built in a day now as part of some overall design, it will be built through practical achievement that at first will create a sense of purpose."
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The primary concern of the Eu when it first formed was to ensure that war could never again take over Europe as it had done before. This objective has been achieved so the EU looked for more ways in which to improve daily life.
Environment
EU member states have taken action to protect the environment. Then is it not surprising that Europe?s rivers and beaches are cleaner, vehicles pollute less and there are strict rules for waste disposal, for example dangerous waste from Europe can no longer be dumped in poor countries as was previously the case. The EU wants good industry, transport, energy and tourism but it will not sacrifice the environment for this, so, it will not destroy natural resources but wants it done with sustainable development so it will allow are economies to grow well into the future.
The Euro
The Euro is the EUs biggest achievement. It is a single currency that is shared among all EU countries. So if you go abroad on holiday you don?t have to change your money. Each note or coin has the same design but on one side you have the national emblem on the other side. Find it impressive that when you?re paying for your milk in your local shop you could get change in a Spanish Euro coin, and somewhere in Spain a person has got an Irish coin back. This gives a sense of closeness among neighbouring EU countries.
Young People
As much as 2million young people have already taken advantage of EU to pursuer studies and travel in other European countries As a result EU makes sure it schemes for educational exchange and helps young people to experience other countries and cultures. Young people of Europe have the chance to broaden their horizons by working and living in new countries and getting to grips with different languages.
More opportunities
Being a EU citizen you can travel across Europe without a passport and without being stopped at borders. Travel for shopping, leisure or business from one country to another will be cheap because there is no money exchange and no commission paid. So basically any EU citizen can live ,work and retire in any EU member state if they wish so.
Equal opportunities
The EU bans discrimination. The EU believes our society is fairer and more efficient when we do not discriminate over race, religion, nationality, gender or any other factors. The first EU treaty contained a clear view that men and women have equal pay and equal work.
Freedom, security and justice for all
EU countries are working together to tackle international crime such as terrorism. And prevent the cross border trafficking of drugs and even people. Being in the EU, you are protected by EU laws.
Exporting peace and atability
The main reason the EU is together is because of peace (after WW2 the EU was formed so that another war would never ravage through Europe again). So the EU came up with the idea of using practical achievements and to create a sense of common progress between member states.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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the above 3 posts are what ukip and the other eurosceptics disagree with.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The EU, Brian, well, see Greece. Currently 65% youth unemployment.
Spain: 57% youth unemployment.
Italy: 40% youth unemployment.
Slovakia: 90% TOTAL unemployment among the Romany. Ethnic discrimination completely ignored by EU parliament.
Slovak councils giving one-way tickets to the UK to Romany families if in return they take their names off the social services list.
This is ethnic discrimination, and Romany families from Slovakia and the Czech Republic compose the highest number of asylum seekers in Canada.
Citizens of EU countries discriminated against on account of their ethnicity and encouraged to leave their own country!
The list goes on...
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,the romany problem has allways been a problem.not only on the continant but here to.and its been around for centrys.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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never seen such gross propaganda in my life brian, hardly a word of truth in it.
dr goebbels would have been proud of it.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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"The EU bans discrimination. The EU believes our society is fairer and more efficient when we do not discriminate over race, religion, nationality, gender or any other factors."
From your EU constitution, Brian, as printed above.
Fact is, some countries in central Eastern Europe operate active and systematic discrimination against the Romany who are citizens of these same countries and have been for centuries.
Romany there do not have equal opportunity to work, they are often encouraged to emigrate and at times are given free tickets to a Western country in return for forfeiting their and their family's right to receiving social welfare of any kind.
This is why so many Czech and Slovak citizens seek asylum in Canada, or are even considered as refugees in Britain.
Many are effectively refugees.
The "Romany problem", did that come from Mein Kampf?
What are EU citizens doing seeking asylum in Canada?
Many have been granted asylum there in recent years because they have been recognised by the Canadian authorities as victims of racist discrimination in the EU.
This is downright unjust!
And I'm wondering how many Romany will be squeezed out of their homeland in Central Europe by the authorities there as the economic recession worsens.