Keith Sansum1
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Of course your not peter
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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No military action in Syria amid army cuts, David Cameron warned
David Cameron should not be contemplating intervening in Syria's civil war while simultaneously
cutting thousands of Army jobs, Conservative MPs and retired officers have warned.
Redundancy notices will be issued to 5,300 Army personnel this week as part of the Coalition's plan
to reduce the number of soldiers from 102,000 to 82,000 by 2017.
The job losses will be imposed while the Prime Minister considers whether Britain should arm Syria's rebels.
Some of Mr Cameron's MPs fear that sending weapons to Syria would be the first step down a path that
could lead to another British deployment in the Middle East.
Richard Drax, the MP for South Dorset who is a vocal member of a Tory group that has attacked military
cuts, said: "Here we are yet again with a Government reducing our Armed Services and at the same time
talking about military intervention of some sort in Syria.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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America is self sufficient on oil and gas ,
The middle east in flames preventing stable supplies of oil to china would benefit America,
and The arms' industry will be clapping there hands
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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summed up well keith, the states are experiencing low energy prices with shale gas providing a lifeline, the middle east is a tinderbox with not only syria but previously stable turkey playing host to serious civil unrest.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Telegraph..........rvh precise..............
Quitting EU 'would damage Britain'
Britain will be excluded from international deals if the country leaves the European Union, which
would lead to fewer jobs land higher prices in the shops, a senior Cabinet minister warns.
The Prime Minister said it would be worth £11 billion to Britain, the equivalent of £384 for every
household, bringing two million new jobs and "lower prices in the shops".
However, in today's article, Mr Clarke, a well-known supporter of the EU, unlike many of his
Tory Cabinet colleagues, says that this country will not be able to participate in this deal and
others without its single market membership. "Irony of ironies, it is of course the EU that is making
deals with the United States and Canada possible," Mr Clarke says. "It should come as no surprise
that Obama's officials have commented that they would have 'very little appetite' for a deal with the British alone."
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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What utter twaddle. Do governments and politicians really think they exercise any real positive control over trade flows? We really need our rulers (particularly 'Obama's Officials') to abandon this dangerous, controlling interventionist mindset. Free trade evolved despite government intervention, not because of it. It's not deals between government officials which create prosperity and jobs, it's corporations and individuals taking risks and making innovations of which governments are fundamentally incapable. Governments are, however, eminently capable of frustrating markets' proper operation by restricting trade; a prime example is the EU regulation that its members can't belong to any other free trade association. Would you join a club that didn't allow you to join any others? I think most right-thinking people would see that as unreasonable.
We should leave the EU and strike free trade deals with anyone we like, including Europe, the Commonwealth and particularly NAFTA.
Clarke is a dinosaur, even by Tory standards, but people still seem to listen to him. Cameron is rapidly turning into a chameleon.
Cue the hand-wringers wittering about low wages in Bangladesh.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Excellent post Peter
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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all a bit of a scare story, we are nett importers so i don't see anyone refusing to sell to us, besides recent trade figures show that our exports outside of the e.u. are rising whilst within the e.u. falling.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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oh dear david your supporters don't like what your doing
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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didn't know the p.m. had any supporters.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Appears to be a few on here howard
or havn't you noticed lol
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Independent........rvhised......
They'll want to bring back hanging next: What right-wing lunacy is there inside the Conservative
rebels' 'Alternative Queen's Speech'?
Banning burkas, introducing 'Thatcher Day', privatising the BBC and, yes, even reintroducing
the death penalty, the Tory right-wing rebels' 'Alternative Queen's Speech' was as laughable as
it was chilling
Sitting on the front bench throughout the sulphurous proceedings, and looking as though she'd rather
be anywhere else, Northern Ireland Secretary Theresa Villiers wore a frozen grin on her face. Indeed
at one point, as diehard anti-coalition Tory Peter Bone was announcing his lethally entitled
Prime Minister (Replacement) Bill, the grin morphed briefly into something akin to risus sardonicus,
the facial spasm associated with strychnine poisoning.
Banning the burka, privatising the BBC, bringing back smoking in private clubs, having a referendum
to reverse the law on gay marriage, abolishing non-criminal complaints of sexual harassment,
getting out of the EU, withdrawing from the European Convention of Human Rights, were not even
half of the "Alternative Queen's Speech" unveiled by the rebels on Monday. As the bills - including
the Bone favourite, redesignating the late August Bank Holiday as "Margaret Thatcher Day" have
no chance - for now - of becoming law, Bone has usefully explained that they could instead "help ...
poor old David Cameron" by forming a manifesto of "proper Conservative policies.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I think this is one of the Tory problems.
Do they stay where they are and have a chance of being electable
or do they lurch to the right and become the old unelectable party
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Wonga chief is big tory donor...............
Courtesy Independent
The Wonga coup: Chancellor George Osborne's 'gift to the payday lenders' in Government
Spending Review
Chancellor unveiled unexpected £365m package of further welfare cuts
George Osborne was accused of driving the jobless into the arms of foodbanks and payday
lenders tonight after announcing that the unemployed would have to wait seven days before
claiming benefits.
In his government-wide spending review, the Chancellor unveiled an unexpected £365m
package of further cuts in welfare. Under a "work first" policy, the jobless will have to sign on
every week instead of fortnightly; look for work from the start of their claim and learn English
or face losing benefits if poor language skills are a barrier to work. Single parents will have to
prepare for work when their youngest child is three so they can get a job when the child is five.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Whilst all of this is bad enough
We have had announcements that this cobbled together lot were going to sort out the money lenders such as Wonga
who give others a bad name.
Action so far; nowt but hot air
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Brian Dixon
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you mean to tell me that alex is in charge.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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not even of himself lol
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Grant all illegal immigrants an amnesty, says Conservative MP Nadhim Zahawi
One-off gesture designed to make Tories more attractive to ethnic minorities
Illegal immigrants should be given a one-off amnesty allowing them to remain in Britain, in a
"seismic" policy shift designed to improve relations between the Conservatives and ethnic
minorities, a prominent Tory MP has said.
Nadhim Zahawi's provocative call will put him at odds with the party's leadership, which strongly
opposes the move, although it has been advocated by the London Mayor, Boris Johnson.
Opponents argue that offering an amnesty would make Britain a magnet for immigrants.
But Mr Zahawi, who is tipped as a future minister, insisted the step could boost the economy -
and help repair the Tories' tarnished reputation among minority voters. He said: "We shouldn't
be afraid to think outside of our comfort zone." At the last election, the Tories picked up just 16
per cent of the black and Asian vote, while more than two-thirds supported Labour. "Our failure to
appeal to ethnic minorities should send loud alarm bells ringing in Downing Street and Centra
l Office," Mr Zahawi said. "Unless we act now this electoral penalty will only get worse.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Another splinter in the conservative administration, which will open old wounds, and will thankfully see the end of this cobbled together lot
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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You've been saying that for 3 years now Keith and you've been wrong every time