Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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ray hutstone wrote:We live in somewhat interesting times. Clearly Sunak will not get rid of Suella despite her panderings to the swivel-eyed loons on the extreme right. He's dragged BadEnoch into a rough time with the Brexit obsessed nutters like Bill Cash and co over the EU law reform act.
Suella wants to be next Tory leader. That's obvious and presumably appeals to the extreme right minority. But does she cut any ice with the rabid Johnsonites like mad Nad?
Were Sunak to win the next election, he would have the authority and kudos to get rid of the Braverman nutters for a political generation. That's the last thing the delightful Suella wants. What is her plan?
I see SB is in trouble again. Astonishing that this has come out just after her leadership pitch. Such a coincidence.
Keith Sansum1
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They appear very divided
Although never likely I don't think Boris in his own head had given up on returning
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Neil Moors wrote:I see SB is in trouble again. Astonishing that this has come out just after her leadership pitch. Such a coincidence.
Yep. More blue on blue fighting on the way. To borrow one of Sir Humphrey's memorable lines - "More like a loose confederation of warring tribes".
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I actually have some sympathy for Sunak in that it is a bit unreasonable to ask him to put this top of the agenda at such a crucial international summit. He absolutely should prioritise the G7, but should act pretty quickly once he's back.
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With the two main parties at war internally with there own memberships ,doesnt bode well
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:With the two main parties at war internally with there own memberships ,doesnt bode well
Strangely, I think they offset each other. There's a bunch of Labour members who would prefer to see a Tory victory than a Starmer one, and there are a bunch of Tory members who would prefer to see a Starmer one. Kind of priced in already I guess (by both sides).
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Tories at least understand enough to hold on to its voting members, unlike Labour .
Latest Tory home Secretary fiasco just another disaster .
They are handing it all the on a plate to labour, where it still unsure if labour will gain enough seats even or a coalition .
Labour's latest interference in stopping pacts with other parties will only result in Tories returning , but may be starmer is happy with that .
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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SB is looking for a way out, isn't she?
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When labour should be winning a landslide , instead talking about who to have pacts with, shows politics has lost its way .
The only winners apathy
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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"Tories at least understand enough to hold on to its voting members, unlike Labour ."
That presumably explains why they lost, and look likely to lose more, seats to the Lib Dems in heartlands. Even Mr Raab has worked that one out.
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ray hutstone wrote:"Tories at least understand enough to hold on to its voting members, unlike Labour ."
That presumably explains why they lost, and look likely to lose more, seats to the Lib Dems in heartlands. Even Mr Raab has worked that one out.
When I worked in Southend, it was considered normal to be a member of the Conservatives, on account of Happy Hour at the Conservative Club. After all, voting intentions are one thing, but reasonably-priced booze is quite another.
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Button wrote:When I worked in Southend, it was considered normal to be a member of the Conservatives, on account of Happy Hour at the Conservative Club. After all, voting intentions are one thing, but reasonably-priced booze is quite another.
I can relate to that.
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But labour didn't win .
A combination of parties made gains
And labour who shoujd be romping home are unsure if they will even be the largest party
More starmer moves to the right less chance of them being a supported largest party
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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In a statement, Mr Afolami said: "[It was] completely inadvertent. All money repaid the moment that I knew about it."
Can anybody explain how you can 'inadvertently' claim back 2 speeding fines on your expenses?
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Tories will need to regroup soon
But they must be amused Labour still isn't the driving force behind the opposition
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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A more cogent example of the bullsh**ters that have been running this country, you will be hard pressed to find. Tell me where I'm wrong.
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Looks like Boris and Cabinet not in agreement over release of papers during Covid to enquiry
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Looks like Boris and Cabinet not in agreement over release of papers during Covid to enquiry
This could be it. This could be the big move. Johnson knows he has no credibility left anyway, so quite fancies dragging everyone down with him.
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Neil Moors wrote:This could be it. This could be the big move. Johnson knows he has no credibility left anyway, so quite fancies dragging everyone down with him.
There's another possibility. Perhaps Sunak knows he has more to lose from an unredacted version of events and is pressing the Cabinet Office to stand their ground for that reason. Effectively kicking the enquiry into the long grass until the next election is over. As you say, Johnson's credibility is shot and Hancock has already glibly placed all his records in the public domain.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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This is exactly what's happening, I think. Johnson's instinct kicked in at first and wanted to cover everything up, then realised actually he's got nothing left to lose, whereas Sunak...