Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
labour area peter,they are or where ex miners living there.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
No Brian, very few Lab voters left in this area. Even Elvington has gone UKIP.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 1391- Registered: 1 Nov 2014
- Posts: 199
Interested in this statistic about Elvington, what is the evidence?
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
- Posts: 1,418
Strange that nobody on the left can tell me if it was a good idea for local coalmines to close. If they say it wasn't good then they corner themselves as is the reverse where if they say it was bad their position is totally untenable.
Weird.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
Coal-mining is/was, a horrible, dangerous job, but created very close communities. When those communities' jobs were threatened, the people themselves were too.
My Dad was a miner up around Wigan, but he decided he didn't want to be a miner all his life, so packed it in and joined the Grenadier Guards. His Mum and Dad and siblings were dead against him then, but as he moved south, he wasn't faced with their wrath every day.
The big problem when the mines closed, was that no new training or jobs were created.
Roger
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
Pam, the evidence is all of necessity anecdotal. Conversations with local people, particularly in the local shops. Feedback from canvassers who report a wholesale shift of allegiance from Labour to UKIP in the former mining communities. Firm evidence only exists in the fact that UKIP won around 50% of the Aylesham vote in last year's Euro-poll.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
Well roger we have something in common; my farther was a miner from Wigan to.
The biggest mistake your party did was to destroy the access shafts to the 300 years UK coal supply.
Thankfully your party have learned a lesson from their past mistakes, and have now given a massif cash subsidy to the big oil companies, to maintaining the uk infrastructure to the oil reserves in the north sae, during this temporary market drop in the oil price.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
Pam
Elvington workers have seen displacement and wage compression ,the local salads factory massively employing EU agency workers being one example due to open EU doors.
If you crap all over your core vote don't be surprised when they tell you to do one!! On voting day.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Yes, quite.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
The Reds have long neglected their core support and could get a nasty shock on Friday when previously safe seats fall to UKIP. Locally it would be no surprise if UKIP candidates get elected in wards like Buckland, St Radigunds and the former mining areas.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,206
St Radigunds ward is a good chance for ukip, they are the only ones who've knocked on our door, certainly not a safe labour ward, and when labour can't be bothered to canvass around there own office they don't deserve the vote.
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
According to Clair's website they have canvassed that ward quite a few times during the campaign, maybe you have been out each time they knocked?
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,206
Hiding behind the sofa I thought it was the rent man!
Arte et Marte