Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I am having to pay the NHS £25 for a CD of an x-ray..........
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Brian Dixon
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peter,how much is the one from the bupa gonna cost.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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BUPA didn't take the x-ray.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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aha that clears that up.but just wondering how much they would charge though.?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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bupa used to charge 45 quid for blood tests back in 1998, the reason i know is that i got a phone call from a very stupid african sounding woman demanding to know why i had not paid my bill.
firstly i had to ascertain who she was, who she worked for and what was the bill for.
once that was sorted i then enquired who she wanted to speak to, the reply came back "israel berkovich of course"!!
hang on a minute i said, that is my brother i will get him.
opened and closed the door a few times then in a breathless stereotypical jewish cliche voice went into one about how i was being persecuted because i was old and poor.
this made her more heated and i was finding it difficult to keep a straight voice, so i closed with "i don't owe no money to no shwarzers" and hung up.
picked up the local telephone directory and found that mr berkovich's number was one digit different from mine.
Love it! You have to take your fun where you can find it at our age Howard!
On a more irritated note, I wonder why Profit is such a dirty word to people.........
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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We could pay doctors 50 grand, same as France and Germany that would save a quid or 3
Keith Sansum1
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bern
that has been answered on another thread
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But brought up again in the last few posts.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Bern
Brian and Keith have answered that in posts #518 and #520.
The NHS was born out of a post-war humanitarian response that rejected the notion of abandoning the poor or weak and embraced the right of equality for all in a Welfare State. Thanks to advances in medicine and care and better living conditions people are now able to live with very complex needs and, consequently, the demands on those facilities are equally complex. It is questionable therefore whether profit is the appropriate driver of reform and I think it is that which worries people rather than the notion of reform itself.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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But that model is broken Mark and simply does not deliver. Change is essential and there is no conflict at all with profit which can be harnessed to help achieve better health and welfare outcomes. The NHS is incapable of delivering the world class healthcare we deserve, unreformed. Even reformed there are good reasons to suggest it will still fall well short of the best.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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barry,the only reason it seems broke is because to many tory ministers got there grubby little hands in it and done damage.
No, it is because ALL parties have failed to grasp the NHS nettle because it has assumed mythic proportions in the minds of the masses.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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post 530 wel said
now lets get back to making the NHS one to be proud of
but not run in the interests of shareholder rather than patient
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Ross Miller
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But where to draw the line?
When does the interest of one patient outweigh the interest of another?
How do you propose to deliver what is an almost unlimitless desire for treatment with a clearly finite budget?
How do you square that circle?
By postcode? age? lifestyle? ethnicity? income? wealth?
Please do tell
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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well ross the reforms will do little to help
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Evidence for that?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Dogma, Bern. Dogma.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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dogma cuts 3 ways as i see it, the reds and blues are set in their ways and will remain blinkered in their outlook.
the third one is now the eyes wide closed attitude to the reforms where they are seen as a great improvement in patient care despite only 12% of g.p's thinking that way.
our resident guru sarah who is normally critical of the n.h.s has been very guarded in her enthusiasm for the reforms by taking a let's sit back and see what happens position.
even blue barry has been lukewarm towards the proposals.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Yet again Keith you answer a question with a bland, fatuous, nonsensical statement
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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi