Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Despite a second legal ruling that the government must not keep the `risk register secret the government are still
refusing to release it.
Lord Owen said it would be constitutional outrage if the bill won approval from the upper house without peers having
had the chance to study the risk register..................
Keith Sansum1
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why should be know about a risk register?????
because although there may be no concern(im sure there must be some) the N.H.S. affects us all, other companies risk assessments have no bearing on this thread and just a red -herring
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Lib/Dems split on health reform and tax on the rich.Cleggy`s leadership is under severe challenge when conference
refused to endorce health bill and his plans to only force the rich to pay the ``minimum``proportion of their earnings
in tax.
Cleggy and his front bench,who enjoy the fruits of coalition government,are having to face near weekly compromises
to keep the coalition together.
Hughes is also insisting the DH publish the `risk register`to assess the problems the reform will cost.
He also says the Party needs to reconfirm it`s belief in FOI.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I am beginning to come round to the view that the strategic risk analyses ought to be published, if only to prove that nothing dark is being covered up.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Double edged sword, though, Peter. Ignorance can read many misconceptions into a complex document. But you may be right - perhaps it would be possible to explain some of the more complex/extreme risks to people without the background knowledge............
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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The time is approaching when the damage caused by keeping it hidden will exceed the damage caused by releasing it.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
A risk.........
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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bern;
you do yourself no credit in stating some dont understand
at the end of the day its about differing opinions
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But of course some don't understand. I don't understand how to put an engine together. Why woukd someone with no knowledge of project management skills understand project management. or does everyone thing projects just manage themselves? It is nothing to do with opinions at all.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith. Perhaps in this, as in other matters, it would be best for posters to read and understand what those who have specialist knowledge in a subject say so they can express an informed rather than uninformed opinion. We have two posters who have particular knowledge of the NHS and it seems to me that certain others ignore their valid points, without making valid counter points, while pushing their much less well informed view.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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thats actually barryw not correct
what we have is a number of posters giving differing opinions on a vast number of subjects
some may well have more eperience than others, but that should not stop people giving opinions whether we agree with other or not
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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There are experts Keith on a wide range of subject on here. We see people with little or no knowledge of subjects arguing with those who have expertise in them. There is a difference between opinion and fact, some cannot tell the difference perhaps because the facts are somewhat inconvenient. It is true of this subject and on many others discussed.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think you have shot yourself in the foot there barry, you have maintained many times about your lack of knowledge re; football.
an equal number of times you have said they are overpaid.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I think there is a clear distinction between fact and opinion; knowledge and ignorance and it seems some on here are purposefully confusing the two.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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most of us give opinions on here that are not something we specialise in.
it is part of our society that we are allowed a view against the establishment that would try to talk down to us in a pseudo intellectual way.
long may it be that way.
Ross Miller
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To be honest as someone who spends inordinate amounts of time managing risk as part of my profession (programme & project management) I see no reason that the strategic risks should not be published; as these should have been written using terminology that non health professionals can access and are pertinent to a much larger group of stakeholders. If necessary they should be rewritten in plain English to aid comprehension and to show nothing is being hidden.
The operational risks should remain the purview of NHS management and risk professionals as frankly given the language they are likely to have used few outside the NHS will actually understand the risk, impact or mitigating actions.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Howard, most of us venture such opinions either in the knowledge that we know what we are talking about; or hoping to be educated by another poster who genuinely does. It's very irritating to make an informed post and then see it countered by someone who obviously doesn't know what they are talking about but has learned what they know from the Daily Mirror. Thats when i have to guard against getting on my high horse and writing posts which are really patronising. (That means talking down to people).
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
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Ross, I think you and I and the health professionals on here are tending to agree on that one.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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have to disagree peter, we are entrusted to vote in our government and we seem to get it right.
listened to so much gobbledegook from people that have no real communication skills that i am not taken in anymore.
i listen to top industrialists and politicians on a daily basis in the media and they always seem to have mastered plain english.
