Health Bill...so far
- 7 March 2012 16:36157970# 334..................is as always ......nearly correct..........
# 94...................is sadly reality...................
.......``These changes are happening now``.................``They are being enacted as we..( I ) write``................
..............Democracy has been by-passed................
.....Not good government........another error of judgement........... - 7 March 2012 16:36157971Risk registers are not managed by politicians.
- 7 March 2012 16:43157974WTF? #341
- 7 March 2012 17:03157979#342 thank God. #341, if you think things are being done without a proper legal basis, this forum is the wrong place to bring it formally to the attention of the authorities.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- 7 March 2012 18:57157990No takers for 332 then ?
- 7 March 2012 19:02157991332, no argument from me, Sarah.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- 7 March 2012 19:05157994probably because no one knew such a thing existed.
until reg raised the issue it was a new one on me. - 7 March 2012 19:09157996It exists in any large organisation Howard, in one form or another, and under various names. I suppose you will want to see the Ministry of Defence's equivalent next? Of course there must be loads in the NHS register to fascinate the journalists. Like the bits on Porton Down's nearest hospital perhaps.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- 7 March 2012 19:48157997Why should you know about it Howard? Any more than you know about my spreadsheets and GANTT charts.
- 7 March 2012 20:04157999never worked for a big organisation since my first 5 years at work, either on my own or in an office with a maximum of 6.
could never work anywhere that had a rule book, i just do things my own way.
i wouldn't last 5 minutes in a bureaucratic environment. - Ross Miller
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7 March 2012 20:29158009I have worked for the last 30 years in firms that vary in size from a couple of hundred people to 100's of thousands of people, all have operated some form of risk register in order to understand the risks facing the business, the potential impacts, the proximity and most importantly to formulate an appropriate owner and response to deal with it. This is simply sensible practice.
In the "good old days" of the NHS these registers would have been managed at local level and not shared with other professionals in the health service, leading to duplicated effort, multiple cost inefficient approaches to the management of individual risks etc. Now it is feasible for the NHS to collate this into one central register it all suddenly becomes sinister and strange - please get some perspective"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi - 7 March 2012 21:56158035who should get perspective?
- 7 March 2012 21:58158036Everyone, Howard.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- 8 March 2012 10:05158074Politicians may not 'manage' the Risk Register but they have their fingers all over it.
This from the Daily Telegraph:
Andrew Lansley, the Health Secretary, has said it would be "completely misleading" to publish the register.
But Labour argues that full disclosure is needed and local risk registers already show the scale of damage that could be done to the NHS by the Bill.
Shadow health secretary Andy Burnham has said some of the regional risk registers "predict poorer treatment for cancer patients".
It's no wonder there is scepticism. - 8 March 2012 10:29158081The Opposition are just playing a very cynical game and that is something Labour, as the natural party of opposition, are far better at than the Conservatives.
- 8 March 2012 10:49158089At the `Ark``yesterday the NHS Kent and Medway set out the `Future Health Provision for Dover District and
Shepway``
.
Not a seat left in the hall....invited guests only though.
Full agenda and lecture back up..........no question time........workshops and feed back...........
Full report will be made available.
Interesting agenda item..........``Patients ( public ) must be informed of the risk factors`` - 8 March 2012 17:52158200For information only.............
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- 8 March 2012 19:16158236Re the post about the meeting at the Ark yesterday. I didn't think it was an invited audience only. My recall is that anyone could attend as long as they had replied and requested a place. As the capacity of the hall couldn't be exceeded
- 8 March 2012 20:25158250Jean and I were going, but I have a really rotten cold and Jean is developing one; no point in giving my germs to everyone.
Roger - 10 March 2012 11:48158527Despite a second legal ruling that the government must not keep the `risk register secret the government are still
refusing to release it.
Lord Owen said it would be constitutional outrage if the bill won approval from the upper house without peers having
had the chance to study the risk register..................