Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Cameron`s `bunker mentality`is driven by his biggest fear..........having the biggest `U` turn being added
to his already long list.
He is aware this `U`turn could be the fatal blow..........if the reform bill goes through it also could be the fatal
blow.
Another candidate to replace him in addition to Boris is top tory David Davis who has accused Cameron of
``shamelessly courting``media mogul Murdoch.He said the Prime Minister was part of Britains ``crony
capitalisim``...........don`t hang around these tories when they smell blood.
Keith Sansum1
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REG
I think there are differing factions now within the tories who are biting at cameron;
1; pro european(those wanting cameron to stick to his present plans to stay
within the E.U.
2; Anti EU (Those that want cameron to get out of the EU today
3; Those tories that are pleadng with cameron to change course(like david davies)
worried about being so unpopular seats will be lost
4; right wing tories wanting cameron to mov away from his middle england stand
this is just a tip of the ice berg, on top of this we have all the factions within the
cobbled together part of the govt(lib dems)
all melting together and waiting to see more blood
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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dave will last this parliament, davies will not replace him - popular with the party faithful but essentially a vote loser.
give it a year and boris will be measuring up for curtains.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I think you underestimate Cameron. He may not be another Thatcher but he is certainly not another Ted Heath.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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PETER;
Nice to see your support for mr cameron,
my own view is that cameron is a very brave man, but he has so much agaist him, it wont be himself that loses the election(not altogether)but his party together with cobbled together lib dems that will do it for him.
cameron has a vey difficult job holding his party together
they are coming out of the woodwork to speak against him.
I share howards view davies is down to earth but doesnt have the support.
Boris who makes a mockery of london, is the fear of cameron (and the wider country) boris is popular with some, and on conservative.com supported as one the party wants as a leader
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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indeed keith boris is "da man" with the party faithful and looks more and more like taking over post 2015.
had a look at his opponents for the role of london mayor and he has no problems there either.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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dont agree
ken is active
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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ken active??
in the past yes, nowadays looks like rigamortis is setting in.
the other day he set out his plans for cutting fares that upon closer inspection were found to be erroneous.
this is not the old "red ken" that people were drawn to.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Ken's links with Lutfur Rahman will bring him down.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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RED KEN OF OLD would be a more welcome sight, but never the less
bumbling boris has to go
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
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Ready that report I am unable to decide who is the master and who is the puppet but I hope neither ever come to power as the other will try to pull the strings and might even succeed.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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like the report says
both livingstone and bumbling boris realise they go against the party and get more votes.
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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BMA announce Bill is to complex...incoherent ....relationship between family and family doctor will be irreversibly
damaged.
NHS workforce in widespread opposition............hello is anyone listening?.....................
Lib/Dems plan to dump the Bill........
Bill will put NHS in the market place.
Cameron is in a tight corner...........to `U` turn ........`again` is unthinkable to him.........
He knows the public are against the Bill.......
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not sure the public are against the bill, just highly suspicious because it is not clear about how the changes will work in every day situations.
if it was highly beneficial to the public the proponents would have made it much clearer.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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And down here in Dover, the reforms are happening in shadow form from April
March 7th sees the GPs setting out their commissioning plans.
Today a session is taking place at K College moving the process and systems forward.
PCT will go and Public Health transfers.
The NHS has been in the market place for years under Labour.
Watty
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The Health Reform Bill will `gradually` make NHS a `Privatised Industry` for profit....................
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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These reforms are no more than a bit of playing around the edges of a failing system. If it really did lead to what you claim maybe we would all get better quality care but sadly it will not happen. All you are doing is the usual unfounded attempt to scare people and make political capital.
People like you who do that and worry more about the organisation, the holy untouchable saintly NHS, are guilty of creating a culture that condemns people to second rate healthcare instead of the world class healthcare everyone in this country really needs.
I do have an issue with the tendency to find a couple of "facts" and inflate them to breaking point in order to spread fear and mistrust. There are enough areas of concern that need a grown up attitude and a proper intelligent conversation as it is without the playground tactics being used to manipulate people - every bit as manipulative as spin doctors but without the subtlety.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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BERN;
To whom your last post refers to im unsure
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