Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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That never happen last time when I was standing for UKIP we done it ourselfs.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Mine was delivered by an individual who was paid to do so as two pizza menus and the current price list from factory foods accompanied it.
The last UKIP leaflet I can remember being delivered to me came courtesy of Alexander now of BNP fame.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Politicos please note that the NHS is of most concern to voters with Europe/EU way down the list.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30980022Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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more gaffes from ukip.
http://t.co/OzYAjk4lByGuest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Old news Brian.
I must say that the way the parties deal with the NHS is astonishing. No party says it will privatise it. Every party says the others are going to privatise it. So every party's propaganda is lies about lies about a sacred cow. Frank Kafka couldn't have made it up.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Indeed Peter all very kafkaesque, the reds used private healthcare providers when they came to power in order to cut waiting lists, the blues have carried on the same with great relish for political purposes. UKIP change their views with every statement their top people make.
The public have every reason to be confused.
Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
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I think it is a very dangerous strategy to make the NHS the centre of election debate. I can't see things improving significantly who ever is in charge and however much money they throw at it.
Meanwhile all the parties continue to fuel peoples expectations. Talking about maternity choices including home births when there is a shortage of midwives. MPs fighting any hospital or ward closure in their constituency whatever the circumstances. Suggesting that any treatment to prolong the life of patients with cancer, however expensive, should be funded.
Of course they fear it would be political suicide to oppose any of the above.
I do wonder why it is considered disloyal for people to pay for private health care? I think it should be encouraged (but not with financial or tax incentives) for those than can afford it leaving a little more capacity for the rest of us.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Good post Mrs Roberts.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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To me the biggest problem with the NHS is politicians who like to boast about how much money they intend to throw it as if that was all that's needed.
The only politiician I have found that has put some thought into it is Andy Burnham, Health secretary in the last government who actually admitted that he would have accepted reduced funding if his party were re-elected in 2010. In the years of opposition he has drawn up plans where local authorities and health providers work together to offer a more joined up service for patients.
Just as importantly he said that people should not expect to see a doctor over minor ailments where a trip to the local chemist would be just as beneficial.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Howard, Andy Burnham is only describing what is already going on. Health & Social Care integration. The local Health & Wellbeing Board with South Kent Coastal CCG & KCC are piloting a Better Care scheme to enable the changes to take place. It is also been included within the CCG five year plan which was consulted on locally. The new extra care beds with step down facilities at Buckland will be part of that programme.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Burnham was talking about it in his last days as health minister Paul, on the subject of minor ailments we do expect more than we actually need. As an example a couple of months back I sprained an ankle on a wonky paving stone and thought about going to minor injuries to get it strapped up. Turned out that Poundland sell ankle supports, wore one during the day for about two weeks and was right as rain after that.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Desperation cutting into Charlie despite him being hot favourite to be re-elected. Started quoting articles from the Sun most of which are aimed at the hard of thinking.
The latest is that the reds would use Sinn Fein and the SNP to form a coalition, the fact that the former have never turned up at the commons to vote is neither here nor there.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I have reached the conclusion that the three main candidates locally are aiming their respective campaigns at those who don't follow current affairs and/or those who believe everything they read on social media. This week alone all three plus their cohorts have peddled blatant nonsense to gain cheap votes. The 2010 election was the first to be held on social media this will be even worse I suspect.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Not seen anyone in my road but none of them tend to bother at any election time, plenty of fast food leaflets and one from UKIP so far.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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When voting I always look at the persons of each party that I think would do a good job of putting over views that are in line with what I think is right ,and would that person do a good job of trying to deliver a better Dover as a MP.
I am very sorry to say none of them fit into my way of thinking so I will not be voting.I will not just vote for a party.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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At PMQ today One nation Ed called Dave a "dodgy" prime minister, I thought that would be called unparliamentary language.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Today's poll puts the blues into a clear lead over the reds despite the HSBC and other financial issues showing them in a bad light. The three smaller parties all slipped back making it all look very volatile.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/16/tories-up-six-points-latest-icm-opinion-poll