howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Got my first leaflet from the Yellows and they clearly want to form another coalition with the Blues as it trumpets their "achievements". The funniest one was cutting the deficit by half!!
Lo and behold they promise to increase health spending by the magic figure of 8 billion quid with no mention of what would be cut to pay for it, all sounds rather familiar.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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"The least well off will be protected and helped."
So far during this parliament they haven't been helped or protected and are still taking the brunt of the cuts.
During this parliament those at the bottom have gained nothing yet they have lost lots the incentive to vote Cons is just not there, they are probably the ones who have jumped ship to ukip and who could blame them.
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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There has to be more of the same for the working poor, those on life long benefits didn't get hit before and won't again.
The benefits cap was cut to £26000 this time and down to £25000 in the next term, how the low paid would love to take home that sort of money.
Guest 1348- Registered: 20 Sep 2014
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don't even get that from both working, so it is never going to work if it is that high. ~Yet still see those who work the system with latest phone drinking it up with all mod cons.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Watching the losers debate tonight. I've seen some partisan extreme lefty Question Time audiences in my time by Dimbleby's quest to fill the hall with far left trade union public sector workers really has surpassed expectations.
It's like sitting in on a 1970s works canteen with trade union conveners arguing the toss about dialectic materialism and who goes out to buy the brazier to keep them warm during the winter of discontent.
Bloody awful but not exactly a shocker. It is the BBC.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I watched some of it but a bit pointless if the Prime Minister bottles it, the bookies now have it more or less even between Dave and Ed fronting the next government. Locally Charlie seems to be walking it now 7/1 on.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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There has been a lot of criticism about the make up of the audience but this chap reckoned that Farage played it to perfection.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/17/nigel-farage-was-the-only-winner-in-final-tv-election-debateGuest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Just read this in the Telegraph.
"Ed Miliband is trying to take Britain back to the class warfare of the 1970s by stirring up hostility to businesses and renouncing New Labour, one of Britain's leading entrepreneurs has warned.
Lord Bilimoria, an independent cross bench peer and chairman of Cobra beer, said Mr Miliband has demonstrated a "startling lack of understanding" about how wealth and jobs are created in this country.
In an article for The Telegraph, he suggested that Mr Miliband's focus on zero-hours contracts as a central part of his election campaign is misleading as they apply to fewer than one in 40 workers. He added that two thirds of them don't want to work more hours.
He also criticised Mr Miliband's pledge to abolish "non-dom" tax status as "regressive" and said that the prospect of the measure raising money are "dubious at best".
He said: "The opening weeks of the General Election campaign have made clear that Labour's leader has little interest in presenting a vision that includes British business. Instead he has exhibited a startling lack of understanding as to how wealth and employment are created in our country — a fact that has hamstrung his party's ability to offer a genuinely inclusive vision for the country's future.
"To be absolutely clear, this is not a question of party politics. New Labour's record in government is one of which it should, in many respects, be proud. The problem is that the Party's current leadership is failing to present the kind of inclusive economic message that was put forward so successfully by Tony Blair."
On zero-hours contracts, the peer said: "To make the issue as central to his campaign as Miliband has done speaks of an agenda focused on stirring up hostility to businesses rather than working alongside them to create inclusive growth that leaves no one behind"
He said it is a "great irony" that Mr Miliband is focusing on non-dom tax status while failing to challenge the government on defence spending and immigration controls.
Lord Bilimoria said: "On immigration too, another issue crucial for any government seeking to present a genuinely national vision, Labour has been dismally silent. The damage caused by Theresa May's economically illiterate crusade against migrants — not least her, now thankfully kyboshed, plans to sent foreign students home as soon as they graduate — has been huge.
"Yet, so busy has Ed Miliband been in trying to resurrect the social divisions of the 1970s, he has neglected to offer the electorate any kind of alternative to the alienation of British allies, from Delhi to Warsaw, which this coalition government has engaged in.
"Labour's leader is fond of saying that he plans to create an economy that works for everyone. If that is truly his goal he must leave behind the overblown platitudes of class-warfare and put forward a genuinely comprehensive vision of the country he wants to create. That would give Britain the choice it deserves."
Roger
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Business do not create jobs , demand creates jobs, business fill demand
If the majority at the bottom have no money ,,,no demand .
Lord Bilimoria, is an Indian gentleman
Some Indians love cheap exploited workers, and a cobra is a snake
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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they must be a bunch of torys then howard,.lol
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Fully agree wiith this independent report have been thinking this along. None of the leading parties have said what they will cut to fund their spending plans.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32424739howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Lessons have clearly not been learned as today Boris Johnson launched a highly personal attack on Red Ed despite this going down like a lead balloon with the public. The bookies all have Ed as favourite to be the next Prime Minister now.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Phoney tough guy? Hell Yes I am.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Boris can't lose. If Cameron pulls off enough seats to form a government, Boris will be in the cabinet and will be elected party leader in due course. If Ed wins No. 10, Cameron resigns and Boris becomes party leader straight away by coronation.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I got the impression he was trying to scupper his party's chances Peter, that way he will be leader in time for the next party conference.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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2 things the Tories cannot get around ,the majority of workers are getting poorer and the old voters are dropping dead .
Time gentlemen pleas.
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Keith Bibby wrote:2 things the Tories cannot get around ,the majority of workers are getting poorer and the old voters are dropping dead .
Time gentlemen pleas.
What are you suggesting Keith......?
........the poorer workers will benefit from the old voters demise perhaps or the inheritance tax will swell the Tories coffers?
Looks like a win win situation to me!!
I never thought the day would ever come when you would contemplate changing your party allegiance!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Much Harder to get elected if your loyal voters are dropping dead, and not being replaced with like people to support your party.
That's the thing about votes, you need to represent the voters casting them votes
In order to get them to vote for you.
Haw will your rich serving party get over this MR Wiseman ??