Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Amazon generated sales of more than £3.3bn in the country last year but paid no corporation tax on any of the profits from that income.
How does that help us?
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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The state your beloved Party yields regulates all areas.
Those with 'no money' and those 'with lots'.
Those with the least shall have less and those with the most will have yet more.
While one form of control can Police a corridor to ensure that none run. (the sort you envision as 'mine')
The other can do the same by removing the legs from undesirables and leave the rest alone to enjoy free passage. ( the sort I envision as 'yours')
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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GaryC - that is the point, we have a global economy.
We need to have a fiscal policy that allows for this and attracts corporate headquarters so we get some tax revenues from the likes of Amazon... That means a low-tax, pro-business, low-regulation environment. The more you try to force businesses and people into a straight jacket to meet the demands of the state then you are in trouble and people will not play ball. It is a competitive world - tax is not a solution to our problems, it is in itself a problem.
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Spite and envy, Howard. Spite and envy!
Keith Sansum1
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GARYC;
You are of course correct, no one is against people making profit
but not our expense
and they should all pay there fair share.
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Guardian.
Osborne is ``Shocked``at the number of Super Rich and others who use ``legal`` tax loop holes to avoid paying tax.
He now thinks it is time he be committed to close the tax loop holes.
After two years in charge of the Treasury he finally understands what the public,media have been saying for two years.
Public confidence in the Coalition has plummeted over tax and public spending cuts....and we still have over 90% of deficit
cuts still to come.....Labour are 9 points ahead in the polls without even trying.How many points ahead will they be when
they wake up?
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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BarryW.
We already have a fiscal policy in place that takes no tax or virtually no tax from the rich or from many business's.
Just how stupid do you think we are.
It is the old, the sick, the disabled, the unemployed and the low paid workers that are being abused and they won't take it much longer.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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GaryC - why are you so obsessed with raising tax?
It is a total diversion from the very real problems with the economy. Foreign companies do not pay tax here, so what? Are you going to ban people from using Amazon? We have a global economy as I said before and we have to make sure we adjust our policies to meet that.
I would love the UK to be a low-tax, low-regulation and pro-business country because that is the way to more jobs and prosperity from which everyone can benefit. Call it a 'tax-haven' if you wish, I don't because we need not go as far as places such as the Caymans that really are tax-havens in the true sense, be nice if we could though!
To be successful we must embrace successful people and companies and encourage them.
The dead hand of the State with the high taxes that go with it are the real enemy for all of us. Look at the more successful economies in the world now, look at where the growth is - it is not in the over-regulated, over taxed European economies.
The most successful recent finance minister in Europe was interviewed in the Speccy this week.
He is Anders Berg of Sweden.
He and his Conservative government has eliminated Sweden's deficit.
His main weapon = tax cuts, going against Sweden's conventional wisdom, that includes tax cuts for those on over £51,000 a year (their top rate used to be an appalling 57%). He also argued his case and led from the front arguing against any debt fuelled stimulus. The tax cuts were so large they effectively gave the average Swede an extra month's salary a year. He is weak on deregulation and the Swedes are still over-taxed but he has shown how damaging high taxes are to an economy and how lower taxes can boost prosperity, growth and jobs.
Blimey - to show just how much Sweden has changed, they have even embraced profit making schools....all to the better.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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We had big promises that to chuck 4 milion public sector persons on the dole the private sector instead would fill these jobs
it hasn't happened instead unemployment is rising and rising,,,
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - that is what you say, not anyone else.
Unemployment has been rising since 2007, youth unemployment since 2005. Only the private sector can create jobs and the public sector is a burden it has to carry and it is far too great a burden.
The government needs to do more with tax cuts and public spending cuts. All the things needed to be done to cut unemployment are things you do not support.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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not sure where you get all that from,
yes at least we agree barryw unemployment is rising, and rising
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I am surprised the Conservatives have not done away with unemployment at a stroke by re-branding it as "Resting" and 'dole' as "Retainer".
Shallow-cone shaped straw hat Futures are looking good. Cool eh?
MORE tax cuts and higher unemployment Barry? What with the Euro crash and Europe-wide depression just around the corner perhaps half of your dream shall come true.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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surely 4 million unemployed is a step to far?
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Well Keith - you have always supported the political party that has increased unemployment over every period it has been in government so you should be an expert in that.
Only the private sector can create jobs and wealth. The government can only impede or help that and a high burden of red tape and tax is what stands in its way.
Brian Dixon
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kieth,of course 4 million unemployed is good,it means that 4 million cant pay tax to the goverment.what we need is full unemploymet to kick start this goverment.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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barryw
of course we disagree, and parts of your posting shows why.
throwing all the public sector on the dole with the promise of private sector jobs
being created to fill the gap just didn't happen
making it easier to sack people does little for morale with this workers being less committed thus affect on business
the employee already has enough red tape put in place to help employers
they dont need any more
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - you are showing exactly the kind of Labour attitude and viewpoint that has led to Labour's abject failure on the jobs front in every period of government it has had.
When something repeatedly does not work you change it - Labour just refuses to change it.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Well BarryW - you have always supported the political party that has increased unemployment over every period it has been in government so you should be an expert in that, too.
Cherry-picking again BarryW.
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